T Levels on 300mg Test Cyp?

300mg/week should put you over the range. 250mg puts most people over the range.

BigRICHshadow:

I’ve been following this awesome message board since I started TRT almost two years ago.
I’ve read all the stickies over and over and over, and continually follow input and protocol advise from the senior contributors on this post…systemlord, KSMAN, etc. My TRT doctor is one of the very best at what he does. That being said… Here are a few takeaways that I have learned on TRT (my opinion of course):

  • 100mg Test per week is not going to work for everyone
  • 250 or even 300mg per week is STILL not going to be enough for some people
  • you can have all your TRT bloodwork dead-on balls accurate and OPTIMAL, and your shit may STILL not feel right.

I have experimented with Test CYP amounts from 100mg per week, to about 240mg per week. Yes of course always staying the course for at LEAST 3 months between changes, and ALWAYS following up with complete TRT bloodwork panel. TRT bloodwork continues to be pretty dang optimal, but always something seemed to be missing. So of course (like most of us), I continue to read/digest information from many men’s health websites, forums, etc.

We all know that everyone’s body chemistry is slightly different, and people respond to things differently.

That being said…I think I may have found something that works for me… I started taking Pantheonic Acid (Vitamin 5B), choline, calcium d-glucarate, and L-Tyrosine twice per day. Oh yeah, and 5mg daily cialis. Current protocol is 50mg T EOD and 250 iu HCG on the other days. Takeaway is go KEEP doing research, try new things, and hopefully find the best combination that works for YOU. Definiely no one-size-fits-all approach when it comes to TRT. A successful TRT story is a marathon, not a sprint.

Good luck man!!

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Thanks for sharing

What do you use that for? Was thinking about taking it for dopamine but I read it’s affect is short term. Anyone have experience?

I had bad reactions to tyrosine for some
Reason. Made me moody and irritable.

It’s supposed to enhance dopamine receptors or something like that…seems to definitely make me more alert and chipper.

I don’t believe it affects receptors directly.

Your body uses tyrosine to make dopamine. Tyrosine is found in just about all proteins. But the problem is that it competes w other amino acids for absorption. So the thought is to supplement it on its own preferably in an empty stomach.

My recent blood work showed:
TT:1085
FT: 29.8
E2:62
So everything is high! I feel GREAT but I have been having some weak erections/weak libido lately. I know its the E2, what’s the best and quickest way to drop E2 level?

The quickest way to lower E2 is anastrozole, the smartest way is lower the dosage. Your doctor isn’t allowing you to optimize treatment by limiting you to weekly injections. You may always end up with high estrogen on weekly dosing.

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Dude, why don’t you try Defy? They are very affordable. It’s absurd that your doc won’t let you self inject.

Also, does your doc inject IM or subQ? I’ve read that subQ reduces the peak and has slower release, which should in turn help with your E levels. I’m still very new to this myself but I’m with @systemlord here, try to go with more frequent injections.

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I am assuming labs were obtained at trough? Have you noticed any difference in symptoms approximate to your injection?

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@systemlord I appreciate your knowledge! I know once a week injections aren’t optimal (especially at such a high dose, 300mg) but I feel GREAT . I may just lower the dose because I don’t want to crash my E2.

Yes labs were taken at a trough (7 days from last injection). Haven’t experienced any symptoms other than slight libido/erection issues.

Another thing, isn’t everything ratio? Like my TT is 1085 and E2 is 62 but even though E2 is considered high, since my TT is high doesn’t it balance out?

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Everyone’s ratio will be different, we are not all clones of the same person. Your set point for estrogen may be under 40, most feel well 20-35, some slightly higher. The high levels you need to feel normal, its likely your receptors are less sensitive and therefore need more to achieve normality.

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But, do you note libido issues close to your injection, or towards trough?

I think this is generally correct. Last test had my TT at 884, FT 202, E2 55. Feel good.

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Appreciate you. It seems like as I get closer to my trough (the next injection), my libidio/ED issues are slightly affected. But sometimes, once I hit my trough, libido shoots up. Does that mean anything?

I do not know. Seems as though it should be consistent if related to levels. There is so much more involved in this besides hormones. I can say mine seems higher for the first couple of days post injection, but I can’t say it significantly drops, though it is likely less, as the week goes on. I don’t think about it for the most part.

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I’m currently taking DIM to help with my E2 but I think I want to lower my dose. I know none of you are doctors but considering my most recent labs above and my once a week injection, what would be an optimal dose to drop to from 300mg?

I would personally drop to 100mg x2 per week (200mg total). Then see how you feel in 6 weeks. If you still need to go down, start dropping by 50mg per week every 6 weeks and re- assess how you feel and back it up with bloodwork.

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Oh ok. Would 200mg one time a week be ok too?