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T Injections: Intramuscular or Subcutaneous

Hello everyone. I am new to the forum. Two days ago I started Androgel 1.62%. As of now, I am not pleased with it; I was skeptical from the start. In the next week or so, I might switch to injections. I know little to nothing about injections; so any knowledge is appreciated. I am inquiring whether subcutaneous or intramuscular injections are preferred and for what reason.

However, the main questions I am interested in are:
Which do you recommend overall? Is this from personal experience or what you know? Why?
Which is more effective?
What is a standard starting dose for each?
What are common additions for each? (AI, HCG, etc.)
What is your method and dose; and what level of testosterone, estrogen, and DHT do they raise or lower you to?

We have a lot of info in the stickies.

Here is a good one stop overview… http://www.allthingsmale.com/word_docs/TRT.doc

And another link to the authors thoughts on sub q injections… http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=n98LOFQwUGA&feature=youtu.be&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dn98LOFQwUGA%26feature%3Dyoutu.be

[quote]Braaap wrote:
Here is a good one stop overview… http://www.allthingsmale.com/word_docs/TRT.doc [/quote]

Ha, funny thing to link to as I’m sure this will only make Nate’s decision more difficult (Dr. Crisler supports transdermal delivery over IM injections).

Crisler has always had some ideas that were off or made up facts.

[quote]KSman wrote:
Crisler has always had some ideas that were off or made up facts.[/quote]

What are you referring to? Are you referring to his belief in trying gels first?

He has made some strange statements over the years such as wanting guys to get their transdermals from “his” pharmacist, which raises questions of conflict of interest. He publishes ideas that he has presented in print and at conferences; then he seems to be stuck on those and has trouble evolving his understanding and moving forward.

He makes up things about things that he does not want to consider and makes technically incorrect statements. What he should be doing is trying different things on his own T delivery so he knows what he is talking about.