[quote]La Flamme wrote:
Hey I was just wondering if some boxers or people that have practiced a variety of disciplines might help me figure out what to expect when i go to a boxing gym for the first time tomorrow?
Until recently I trained at a muay thai and mixed martial arts gym owned by a muay thai instructor. As a result the vast majority of the striking work we did was muay thai and the muay thai instructors also ran the boxing classes until we got our boxing instructor back about a week before I had to leave. I noticed that the boxing instructor refined a lot of things in my boxing game even in the 2 classes I had under him after his return.
My current problem is that university life no longer permits me the finance or the time to wheel my 13 year old pickup truck an hour each way to my gym. so after missing out on a fight promotion because i was no longer able to train 5 times a week, and going bat shit crazy not training i decided to enroll in a boxing gym near my house to keep working on my striking. ideally i would like to keep doing wrestling and bjj classes but i know if one of my skill sets can handle more neglect its ground work and i only have the time and money to train in one.
any way sorry to ramble but what can some one from a muay thai heavy back ground expect in terms of changes when switching to pure boxing. I feel as though ive been hamstrung by taking away several powerfull weapons and not having the ability to clinch in the same way. i would be very great full for any pointers[/quote]
I think the biggest issue with training at a boxing gym for MMA or Muay Thai is the boxing culture/expectations.
Even though MT is a ring sport, in the US it’s also a “martial art”, and in my experience is generally taught in some middle ground between how a TMA might be taught, and how a boxing gym might be run.
My experience with boxing gyms is that they are really only interested in putting time into you if you’re going to fight (box), although being a punching bag for the fighters will get you somewhere too.
x2. I am so disheartened by the bullshido that abounds in certain gyms. I especially hate seeing a sign over a gym that advertises “Boxing, Kickboxing, Karate, Taibo AND Kung Fu.” You need to hit up a serious gym that takes money from you to train but respects your decision to fight or not. Otherwise you feel like you have to prove yourself all the time (maybe that means getting fights you’re not ready for) in order to get quality training attention.
However, regardless of your level, technique issues and intention to fight the occasional private lesson is always a good way to escape the hamster wheel of a typical boxing gym circuit and get serious input on your skills at that time. I feel like your boxing shortcomings as a consequence of your Muay Thai experience will become self evident whether you went to a good or bad MT gym. The order of the day is to absorb the new skills, and if you fall behind, get a private lesson here and there. And in my experience, boxing coaches love training guys that are good and can take their learning medicine. Who wants to teach a chump that doesn’t listen?
Ye solid points. I don’t know how things work in the US, but over here, in my experience, gyms tend to put a lot of time into anyone who wants to fight and represent the gym, and pretty much ignore everyone else who is there for fitness. Doesn’t matter about ability so much, the gyms here are not money making enterprises, as far as I am aware, they are community clubs run by volunteers from generation to generation. Once you’ve put in 3 months or so of making every single training session, and pushing to improve every training session, asking for advice, trying to beat the fighters in circuits, trying to win every body spar etc, then coaches will take you aside and ask if you’re interested in fighting. From then on each week you’ll get pad time, sparring time, and concentrated
coaching whilst you work the bag.
That’s not meant to be a knock on US gyms, which obviously produce outstanding fighters, but from my very limited knowledge, the average boxing gym over there charges quite a bit more money than they do over here, although it may be the same that fighters don’t actually have to pay most of the time.