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Sustonon to HCG Ratio


#1

Hello I’m new to trt but I’m currently educating myself on the subject. I’ve decided to look into 0.25ml of sustonon 250 every four days but I would like to have an idea of what amount of hgc someone could take with that amount of sustonon. I do endurance exercise skipping punch bag swimming.


#2

The concept of Sustanon to hCG ratio it totally meaningless.

Typical and effective TRT doses of ~100mg/week totally shut down LH/FSH in a couple of days. Sust is just another T ester that delivers bio-identical T as the ester groups are removed. The dose of T thus does not matter.

You are not taking hCG to produce T, some of that happens, but injected T is least cost.

250iu hCG SC EOD is all that is needed to support the testes physically and fertility is well protected in most guys.

[High dose hCG will lead to a lot of T–>E2 inside the testes that increases serum E2 levels and anastrozole cannot control T–>E2 inside the testes. Same issues if SERM doses are high and high LH creates same problems. So it is then obvious that one should not stack SERM+hCG.]

Edit, had misread the dose:
Your TRT is dose is fine. It is mission critical to control E2 levels. E2=~22pg/ml is considered optimal.

TRT:
Read the stickies
Post your lab results with ranges, not just T!
Provide more info about you and your hormone decline, health, meds etc

Labs:
TT
FT
E2
LH/FSH before TRT only
prolactin if <35
PSA if >40
CBC
hematocrit
AST/ALT
fasting cholesterol
fasting glucose

Please read the stickies found here: About the T Replacement Category

  • advice for new guys
  • things that damage your hormones
  • protocol for injections
  • finding a TRT doc

Evaluate your overall thyroid function by checking oral body temperatures as per the thyroid basics sticky. Thyroid hormone fT3 is what gets the job done and it regulates mitochondrial activity, the source of ATP which is the universal currency of cellular energy. This is part of the body’s temperature control loop. This can get messed up if you are iodine deficient. In many countries, you need to be using iodized salt. Other countries add iodine to dairy or bread.


#3

That information has cleared a great deal up thank you. I’ll get onto that.
Thanks again.