[quote]AnimalPower00 wrote:
Hey im 24yr old powerlifter im 5’8 205lbs I compete at 198 my current numbers are Squat 625, Bench 350, and Deadlift 600. My primary aspect is gaining strength, I lift with a team and my nutrition is good im eating around 4000 “good” cals a day. My lifting regiment is solid. I am looking to get the most out of this cycle it looks like this
Wk 1-10: 250 sust E3D
75 tren EOD
.5 Tamax ED (for estrogen support)
PCT Clomid
Now this is my first cycle, I want to take my power training to the next level. Any suggestions my Tamaxofen is 15.2 oral so I would have to cut them into fourths. The reasons I picked these was for the 4esters of sust with little water retention and the tren because of the strength and the leanness like i said i compete at 198 so if its possible to not get above 225 but escallate my strength would be perfect but if all else fails I will just compete at 220 oh well.
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What is going on with the ‘Tamax’ (i hope it is a typo??)? 0.5 Tamoxifen is not a relevant dose for that drug.
Not to mention 15.2 oral - what does that even mean?
All i can think is this: Tamoxifen citrate tablets of 24.6mg(ish) equal 20mg of Tamoxifen - as you need to minus the weight of the citrate. If you have 15.2mg Tamoxifen Citrate tabs… then they are NOT 15.2mg of Tamoxifen - likely nearer 10mg.
Next - Tamoxifen is NOT the correct drug to use to manage estrogen on cycle - this was the case 20 years ago… not now (21st century daawg…).
You need an Anti-Aromatase like Anastrazole instead. Much better - THAT is dosed around 0.5mg a day, not ‘Tamax’!
NEXT - if you are expecting to build 22lbs of lean tissue from one cycle you either better be Ronnie Colemans brother or… well nothing really. o don’t worry. If you don’t want to get big - don’t eat to get big! If you use anastrazole (controlling the water) with the Test and Tren and eat clean and around maintenance - you may gain a little but generally you will be increasing strength primarily.
Of course a high protein diet even in a caloric deficit with such potent anabolics can still lead to muscle growth (damn huh?) but seeing as you have a 22lb window - don’t sweat it.
Cycle is pretty well designed and laid out - nice work big lad. Here is my version of it:
Wk1-10 Sust 700mg (100mg ED)
or
Wk1-10 Sust 525mg (75mg ED)
plus
Wk1-6 Dbol 210mg (30mg ED)
Wk5-10 Tren 350mg (50mg ED)
Wk1-12 Adex 0.5mg-0.75mg ED
Wk13-16 ‘Tamax’ or Clomid PCT
Here is the meaning behind this madness…:
You would time this cycle to coincide with your next meet - with your meet falling on the Sat of week 8 or 9.
Sust as your base for 10 weeks… short cycles are great but honestly i find that Test exerts its best strength gains after a good 8 weeks of being on… so that’s that. With 22lbs as your ‘buffer’ you could live with 700mg/wk of that fine shit (go human pharmaceutical grade for your Sustanon if you can).
The dbol is great for strength, muscle and size - you WILL balloon up on it but it will be timed so it is weeks before your meet. So you reap the benefits of more muscle/IGF/estrogen/joint cushioning/energy/motivation/mechanical AND neural strength in the first weeks and the bloat drops off leaving just lean muscle and strength increases afterwards.
The Tren is overlapped 1-2 weeks with the dbol only and is highly anabolic and highly androgenic. So massive strength gains and aggression for your meet - which will allow the body to improve on the results provided by the Test/Dbol stack prior to adding the Tren. Tren should be ran during the meet, no doubt.
Arimidex is for the estrogen - this will reduce the bloat and the fat gain… a dose of 0.75-1mg will all but remove it totally i would expect (hard to know without knowing you).
You inject daily to reduce bloating, along with many other estrogenic sides, and keep mood stable along with many other androgenic sides.
I understand this is your first cycle - and i would recommend less to a recreational trainer - but you are a competitive athlete - why wait? Why ‘ease into it’? Your first cycle IS the best and seeing as you have a team to support - you should make the best of it you can.
JJ
… thats about it i think…