Sus 250 or /Test E @ Age 16?

Why the hurry? What are your present stats? Height, weight, build? How has your training progress gone to date?

What is so pressing for you to interfere with the maturing of your endocrine system when you can wait 6 years and then after training hard and making lots of progress, consider if you want to make the leap without permanently damaging your own hormone production?

Do you have any idea how important the proper balance of hormones are to the quality of life? Mess that up now when it is just coming together and the rest of your life could be an upstream battle.

Is it worth the risk? Remember Arnold is a one in a million genetic specimen.

6 Years? Seem a bit long bro.

5’8
180
Meso/Endo
17-20% BF

Training since january 17th 2008

Almost a year but with on & off around id say a good 8-9 months.

From 5’8 230lbs, 32% BF

dude honestly? 16? wTf!

Thats the problem with kids these damn days. No incentive to bust ass…always want shit handed to them.

Sorry bro your no where near ready.

you wanna be 5’8 your whole life?

Nothing good can possibly happen from a decision to embark on this road at age 16. I’ve spent way too much time reading and responding to PMs from kids on this site that got messed up from LIGHT cycles at age 20, let alone 16.

You may think that you understand the risks, but that just tells me that you’ve grossly miscalculated the risks. The first cycle is your first rationalization… in no time you’ll be bumping doses, adding more to your cocktail as you chase after your first cycle results. Teenagers should be obsessed with girls, not drugs.

As for Ahnold, there are plenty of modern (=bigger) pros as well as wannabees that wish they’d waited until later in their 20’s to start AAS use. Go the Professional Muscle forums. Seriously, the two most common regrets these guys have are starting too soon and not being smart enough about training (ie. overdoing things). BB is a marathon, not a sprint.

You’ve made some significant accomplishments in a relatively short period of time. Keep at it, get stronger, drop some more fat, and use whatever brainpower you have.

[quote]Loops wrote:
6 Years? Seem a bit long bro.

5’8
180
Meso/Endo
17-20% BF

Training since january 17th 2008

Almost a year but with on & off around id say a good 8-9 months.

From 5’8 230lbs, 32% BF
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6 years is a blink of an eye,in training years.
1 year is nothing .
6 years goes real fast.

My freshman year roommate ran a relatively light cycle. Six years later he is ordering knock off viagra online…

What if relatively you run 2-3 cycles yearly?

[quote]Loops wrote:
Ok, but genetically wise i’m good there

It has not even been a year and i’ve dropped from 32%Bodyfat & 230Lbs to 17-20%bodyfat & 180lbs.

I just cant seem to wait.[/quote]

so you went from being a complete fat ass, to a smaller fat ass and you think you are at your genetic limit? Are you serious?

No i’m not even close i’ve made so much progress, and my genetics are fairly good.

I just dont want to take a year gaining 20lbs while i can take 2 months gaining it.

You get me?

Ok what about bodybuilders like Lee Priest, and many others that are alive right now that probably took them while they where young.

You guy’s are really maknig me think twice about this.

What is your planned PCT for this cycle?

NOTHING good can come of this. You think you are sure that you want to do this but you really need to think again. Why?

Because 6 years from now you will look back on it as the biggest mistake you ever made. You will wonder how you could have been so wrong. You will say I was sure I knew what I was talking about. I promise you, when you are still 5’8" at 22 and can’t get it up even with viagra and spend thousands of dollars a year on doctors and your health is totally destroyed you will be sure that this is the worst decision you ever made. Fair warning.

Shit now this shit is crazy bro at least put in some work first you havent even tried to get big just wait man try to go natural your to young,. think about what could happen to you.

Don’t do it!

Low test in your twenties is so terrible, man it sucks :frowning:

I’ve got it naturally low, if you’re sacrificing your health now for some size that you’ll EVENTUALLY get anyway…

Dude… use your genetics naturally.

Actually you know what, do it. People like you make ME work harder. Enjoy trying to get it up while a hot, wet girl is just waiting for you. Sounds like fun doesn’t it?

Ok you guy’s are absolutely correct and i was playing nolva for PCT, i just could not wait my ab’s are finally starting to show(hard flexed) and im cutting down my BF a bit.

I’m seeing improvement’s if i eat so much better.

I’m a fucking retard and there is mostlikely a chance that i will regret this.

I’m not gay or anything i know it gets up with a girl and shit but i dont find pussy the best thing in the world i’m more of a fitness lifestyle guy.

[quote]Loops wrote:
I’m not gay or anything i know it gets up with a girl and shit but i dont find pussy the best thing in the world i’m more of a fitness lifestyle guy.[/quote]

He’s not saying that you won’t want to get it up, but that you WONT get it up. It won’t work, no matter how hard u try. Thats what they mean. ever had nervousness or cold related ED? imagine that feeling every single time. trust me dude, not worth your time

Are you thinking 8-12 weeks? I would stick with something simple. Sounds like you have done your homework and I’m glad to hear you are a fitness-lifestyle guy. You could possibly try the following (if you can get a hold of it):

Cardiobolene 45m 5x weekly &
A-decentdietanol ED

You should experience very good gains if you stick with this for 12 weeks. Be sure to load before and after photos.

I really dont mind it’s just something i would lose. It’s a sacrifice.

I’m going to take photos tonight and show you how i am right now.

I was thinking TEST E 500mg/10 weeks
or Omna 250 500mg/10 weeks or 600mg/8 weeks

pct would be nolva.

I’ve done my homework but i’m going to be honest i do not know everything about steroids i just researched what i’m going to do.