Off of this topic, but I heard something interesting the other day, and I was wondering if mr. @readalot has an answer for me. Does harm to the liver get reduced by taking orals sublingual? I heard it would then go blood stream first, instead of liver first. The idea made sense to me, but wanted a second opinion.
I believe the graph youâve referenced is with testosterone undecanoate. TU takes a far longer time to reach a steady state in the bloodstream
Bypasses first pass metabolism, but still passes the liver. As to whether this ameliorates hepatotoxicity is unknown
I.M stanozolol is still clinically reported to induce cholastasis, elevated LFTâs, Jaundice etc.
I wouldnât bet on IM vs Sublingual vs oral for hepatotoxicity mitigation.
sheesh
No. Itâs amazing. I feel seen.
Kidding, right?
I took it as you are planning on running Tren for life without stopping, is that correct? I hope you at least plan to cruise at some point.
How did the bulk cycle go tho? Got pics if bodybuilding or lifts if powerlifting to share?
Squat 470x1 went to 510x2, 405x10
Deadlift 565x1 went to 600x1, 505x5
Bench stuck at 370x1. Tore a muscle in rotator cuff on 6/20/2021 going for 405.
Bench PRâs 225x35, 315x10, 350x2
I quit taking pictures. I went from 203lbs to a peak weight of 248lbs in 12 weeks. bloated and fat.
Be careful man. I believe in this game a lot can be achieved with moderation and time. Not as much as can be gained going full steam ahead, but make sure that difference between the two is worth it.
Oh shit⊠Are you okay?
Are you planning to get surgery?
I have a bad shoulder Iâve been trying to avoid surgery for. Did a lot of physiotherapy but the shoulder is structurally defective (from birth) I know itâs just a matter of time.
So far Iâve only had an XRAY. Canât see anything. My ortho appt is on 8/3 hopefully I get an MRI. I have PT today and again in a week.
So I donât know.
Just had an echocardiogram. My heart is healthy
Iâm invincible
Jokes aside, I never used much thus I attribute this to the fact there appears to be nearly no morphological alteration/deterioration with regards to my cardiac function.
I donât develop polycythemia either. My haemoglobin over the past year has been like 130 when off everything, 145-155 tops when on
If only my lipids always good/if only I wasnât prone to autonomic dysfunction
It ought to be noted my âblastâ is more akin to what many cruise on and my cruise is 125mg test/wk tops. Sometimes 100mg/wk.
Though sometimes I forget to take my shot and end up feeling REALLY shit, unable to pinpoint why I feel shit. Then it hits me âI havenât taken my 100-125mg test in like 12 daysâ.
I wasnât aware aspirin lowered HCT/RBC count. Rather I thought aspirin reduced the risk of thrombosis by inhibiting thromboxane A2, thus inhibiting platelet aggregation
Chances are you, as a relatively young male arenât going to stroke out on 100mg/wk unless you have an astronomically high HCT like 60%. High HCT wonât do you well long term, but acutely youâre probably fine.
If HCT is too high you can opt for donating blood or lowering the dose. Donating blood often can lead to iron deficiency, though not everyone is affected to the same extent.
@unreal24278 @lordgains @readalot
i just found out you need to do bloods for IGF while fasted⊠i have never been fasted⊠would doing bloodwork 1-2 hours after a meal increase or decrease IGF?
a quick google search said that there would be like 5% difference in results so it does not really matter tho.
any toughts?
i ment that i was never fasted when i took IGF testsâŠ
i actually did IF and ate like once a day for years when i was in my best shape and conditioningâŠ
the horrible eating was when i was 15 and 145lbs at 6â2 and went up to 220lbs, and now when i went from 220lbs to 260lbs in less than a year.
and now im recomping by eating only when i actually want, as i hope to lose some 20lbs like this in next 4-6 months and still gaining strenght as my muscle mass increased much faster than my strenght didâŠ
So my IGF data is not fucked up too much if i did bloodwork after breakfast?
@readalot you frequent Nelson Virgilâs excel male? Many years ago I read that forum as a newbie to TRT. Thanks to systemlord a member here and there he cost me hundreds of dollars in blood tests. I no longer visit or read excelmale IMO that site is so biased I want nothing to do with them. @readalot are you a mod there? Your post wording is very close to one of their better mods.
Hahaha, you know better now?