[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
amir khan high guard?
does he have ANY guard lol
dudes gameplan is to throw a million punches and hope none get fired back.
Anyway ill bite, I’m not a fan of high guards, if we define high guard as the hands up on your forehead and bridged/railtrack forearms. Mainly because if you notice, the most prolific users of a high guard are low level pros who never improve. They use the guard specifically usually due to a deficit in some other area of their game, i.e poor defensive skills, a craftmanship of which would seem to be slowly disappearing as old school boxing gyms get replaced by business orientated chains.
I dont like it because it is obstructive to your vision, which is already suffering from fighting tunnel vision under high adrenaline. It also means your hands are not in punching position - yes you could argue a low lead like mayweather suffers from the same thing, but the upjab benefits from coming from an angle people cant usually see it from, jabbing from your forehead does not have the same benefit. It also promotes over reliance on the guard and the illusion of safety - it is almost always better to avoid a blow than it is to soak one. If george foreman and tyson demonstrate anything, its that covering up your head doesnt mean you’re not going to get knocked out.
with regards to my comment about low level pros, obviously correlation is not causation. As brett pointed out, a fantastic boxer who utilizes a high guard consistently is Lomachenko. However Lomachenko also has excellent footwork, excellent sense of timing, good head movement and good control of range.
I think the hierarchy of defense should be = range > position > head movement > blocking/parrying/guard.[/quote]
Completely agree with your hierarchy of defense.
Like was said above though, a high guard can be and has been used very effectively. Ali’s use of it to absorb Foreman’s punches and tire him out in their fight was one of the most iconic examples of how it can be used effectively by someone who does not have the natural speed and conditioning (by the Foreman fight Ali knew he was not the superior physical specimen he had been earlier in his career) to use head movement or footwork to run or counter punch and who you can’t afford to trade with.[/quote]
I agree with Davo, Irish, and Sento.
Only thing I will add is that I think a high guard can be a real good idea for those who are having trouble starting out, or as sort of a “default position” in combatives/self defense. Once someone decides to specialize/be an actual boxer though I think its negatives will outweigh its positives for most.