[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]Mascherano wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Mascherano wrote:
The higher ed system in the US is an absolute disgrace.[/quote]
Even though I work for a college, I agree with this 100%.[/quote]
Lol! I’m sure your proximity to the higher ed system only better illuminates its faults.
I find it sad really. Education is meant to “break the fetters of oppression” and in fact it just creates more of them.[/quote]
Good post Maschy.
The whole model here in America now is to go into massive debt to get the best degree you can to work SALARY for the best employer that you can… In other words, just shut up, keep your head down and work for “the MAN”. And, “oh yeah, I’m gonnna need you to come in on… Saturday… MmmmKaaay?.. Riiight”. No Overtime on Saturday, though - you’re SALARY. If you’re lucky you’ll get a bonus. People do this because they feel LUCKY to have a job.
When I got out of prison, I got into the electrical apprenticeship (a five year program that’s FREE - I even got PAID to go to school) when I was 22. By my THIRD year, I was already making more money than most of my friends who were in massive debt with college degrees.
I did that for a decade and then got into the mortgage business and used that capital to leverage ownership in several other businesses and buy a bunch of real estate that cash flows very nicely - even after property values took a hit.
The role of the small business owner here in America is being filled by people from OTHER COUNTRIES who grew up NOT drinking the cool-aid! Tell me how a person can immigrate here from Korea with 20K that their family saved up for for DECADES and start a successful small business. NOT speaking the fucking LANGUAGE half the time! And they are MILLIONAIRES in ten or fifteen years, but for regular AMERICANS with the benefit of being CITIZENS here, it simply doesn’t even OCCUR to them to take HALF the money they would have spent on college and start a business with it.
It BOGGLES my poor little mind. Keep drinking the cool-aid, though - let me know how it works out as the economy worsens, unemployment rises and you need a fucking MASTERS degree to even compete for a “good job” (oh wait…)[/quote]
Good post, but most people are already out of college and working before they realize the things you mentioned. Kids raised by employee parents expect to grow up and be employees. By the time they realize they could have done something else, the money is already spent and the interest is piling up.[/quote]
I am not sure what you are advocating though
Do you expect every 18 year old kid to strike out on there own and start a small business?
Overwhelmingly the more(better) ones education the more money they can expect to make. There obviously are exceptions.
An observation that i’ve made is foreigners who immigrate here put a huge emphasis on education. Indians and Asians especially. They love the medical field. Every school I know always has a huge asian population.
You don’t have to go into massive amounts of debt. Everybody’s situation is different but if you do well in high school you should have some options. I know if NY there are the SUNY schools which are very affordable and have some really good programs. There are trades as you mentioned some other avenues you can take as well.