[quote]SpoonMan89 wrote:
While these are all pointless comparisons (i.e How will the resolution of this argument help you, me or anyone lift more weight?) the topic does interest me.
Wrah, you are asking for arguments against your opinion that Olympic lifters would outlift a Powerlifter in the deadlift (see thread title). Has any Olympic weightlifter, in a competition, ever out-deadlifted Benni Magnusson in just a belt? That’s my argument- simple numbers. The ball is in your court to disprove it now. Until you can say “Yes”, you aren’t correct. Talking about acceleration and ‘who is stronger’ proves nothing- producing bigger deadlifts does.
Simple convention proves you wrong, training the deadlift using the methods that top powerlifters use yields a higher deadlift than training as top weightlifters do. The fast lifts do help the deadlift, but to do the powerlifts, you have to train like a powerlifter. In order to disprove this argument, you need to show us a bigger deadlift.
It’s not ‘our’ arguments challenging you here. You don’t ‘win’ just because no one is taking the time to disprove you. And ultimately, there is no resolution to be found with baseless comparisons- until you find a weightlifter and pay him to do a powerlifting meet and officially lift 1050 (or do it yourself using Olympic training methods), the argument counts for nothing.
PB Andy didn’t ‘appeal to authority’, he reminded you that you didn’t know who you were talking to. If you want to carry on a civil discussion, address TheJonty’s points one by one, and respect him.
You have had many good arguments presented against you (you did ask for them, remember), but you have glossed over them, which is why people aren’t respecting your opinions. I agree that curiosity to improve is an important characteristic in a strength athlete, but defend your opinions, don’t just attack other people.
If you respond to this post at all, please do go through it carefully, and approach it maturely. If not, don’t respond at all.[/quote]
Fuck you.