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Strong Men More Likely to Vote Conservative

10 interweb points for whoever knows who this conservative is.

I believe that would be Cicero

Well done Tirib. And here’s your bonus prize:

http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=546&Itemid=28

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I believe that would be Cicero [/quote]

his most famous bust as it were.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I do think that women have to raise an eyebrow over the Republicans wanting to do away with birth control . That had to do some REAL harm to the Republican candidate [/quote]

It is idiocy such as this that has caused me to spend less and less time on this forum.

I guess I should thank you, sorta.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Well done Tirib. And here’s your bonus prize:

http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=546&Itemid=28 [/quote]Well thank you sir. I have never read Cicero’s Commonwealth, but have grabbed the pdf from that very cool looking site that I have never heard of. Two new things in one night, a bonus prize indeed.

Looks like I beat Chris by only a few minutes so I’ll share my prize with my dear brother.

[quote]JEATON wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I do think that women have to raise an eyebrow over the Republicans wanting to do away with birth control . That had to do some REAL harm to the Republican candidate [/quote]

It is idiocy such as this that has caused me to spend less and less time on this forum.

I guess I should thank you, sorta.[/quote]

your welcome

So is Edmund Burke a libertarian/anarchist now? New spin on political-history for me atleast!

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]tonypluto wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Problem I have is the Republicans think because they are mean equates to Conservatism . The are just mean liberals :)Libertarians are true conservatives another bullshit point is Social conservatism equates to draconian regulations on normal behavior[/quote]

If the article had said Strong men are more likely to vote Libertarian, I would have believed it. Although Libertarianism is Conservatism to its extreme, Conservatism means something entirely different today than when it was founded. I would say that Ron Paul was probably the only conservative Republican candidate.

If I were allowed to vote, I’d vote Libertarian.
If I were asked what I really wanted, Well that would be Pure Anarchy.[/quote]

The conservative mind. Read it.[/quote]

Great book.

[quote]tonypluto wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Problem I have is the Republicans think because they are mean equates to Conservatism . The are just mean liberals :)Libertarians are true conservatives another bullshit point is Social conservatism equates to draconian regulations on normal behavior[/quote]

If the article had said Strong men are more likely to vote Libertarian, I would have believed it. Although Libertarianism is Conservatism to its extreme[/quote]

Not really, libertarians had more in common with the early socialists than with the conservatives of their day.

The split occurred of course when those socialists began to see liberty as a means to an end and discarded it when it was inconvenient.

In a way, to call social democrats “liberals” is not entirely unjustified, they once were part of the libertarian movement.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]tonypluto wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Problem I have is the Republicans think because they are mean equates to Conservatism . The are just mean liberals :)Libertarians are true conservatives another bullshit point is Social conservatism equates to draconian regulations on normal behavior[/quote]

If the article had said Strong men are more likely to vote Libertarian, I would have believed it. Although Libertarianism is Conservatism to its extreme, Conservatism means something entirely different today than when it was founded. I would say that Ron Paul was probably the only conservative Republican candidate.

If I were allowed to vote, I’d vote Libertarian.
If I were asked what I really wanted, Well that would be Pure Anarchy.[/quote]

You’re 22 why can’t you vote? Criminal justice problems?

And by the way most libertarians are young males. NOT ALL OF THEM, but most. And we both know why.[/quote]

Just curious , what does his age have to do with it ?
[/quote]

I thought that was rather obvious. But just for you I’ll explain. If someone cannot vote it’s usually one of two things.

  1. They are under the voting age

  2. They have been found guilty of a felony

There are other reasons but those are the two major ones.

Therefore, I commented on his age, being 22 he is of legal age to vote. So there must me another reason.

Now don’t say that I don’t like you Pit after that detailed explanation.

Zeb

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Every democrat that captured the White House since JFK would have gone down to defeat had it not been for women. >>>[/quote]There was a yahoo article a few days ago asserting the women would give Obama his second term.
[/quote]

This is only April Trib. Six months is a lifetime in politics. It will swing back and forth a multitude of times before it’s over. Anyone claiming that either man is a sure winner is either stupid, or a 20 year old politic science student on T Nation. [/quote]Indeed has I have said myself as well you know. Six months is an eternity. I was simply remarking along the lines of your comment about an article that agreed in principle. The female exit polling after the 92 election was pretty tough to take I have to say.[/quote]

The female population was in love with Bill Clinton in 1992. Poor old George Bush (41) didn’t have a chance against the dashing southern Governor.

But, no looks, speaking ability and shear charisma do not matter at all. It’s issues that people focus on – Ha ha…

[quote]florelius wrote:
So is Edmund Burke a libertarian/anarchist now? New spin on political-history for me atleast![/quote]

Florelius my friend what happened to your avatar?

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
So is Edmund Burke a libertarian/anarchist now? New spin on political-history for me atleast![/quote]

Florelius my friend what happened to your avatar? [/quote]
It got bit by a zombie

[quote]florelius wrote:
So is Edmund Burke a libertarian/anarchist now? New spin on political-history for me atleast![/quote]

I don’t think so.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]tonypluto wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Problem I have is the Republicans think because they are mean equates to Conservatism . The are just mean liberals :)Libertarians are true conservatives another bullshit point is Social conservatism equates to draconian regulations on normal behavior[/quote]

If the article had said Strong men are more likely to vote Libertarian, I would have believed it. Although Libertarianism is Conservatism to its extreme, Conservatism means something entirely different today than when it was founded. I would say that Ron Paul was probably the only conservative Republican candidate.

If I were allowed to vote, I’d vote Libertarian.
If I were asked what I really wanted, Well that would be Pure Anarchy.[/quote]

You’re 22 why can’t you vote? Criminal justice problems?

And by the way most libertarians are young males. NOT ALL OF THEM, but most. And we both know why.[/quote]

Just curious , what does his age have to do with it ?
[/quote]

I thought that was rather obvious. But just for you I’ll explain. If someone cannot vote it’s usually one of two things.

  1. They are under the voting age

  2. They have been found guilty of a felony

There are other reasons but those are the two major ones.

Therefore, I commented on his age, being 22 he is of legal age to vote. So there must me another reason.

Now don’t say that I don’t like you Pit after that detailed explanation.

Zeb[/quote]

You act as though he being 22 is an issue , There may me another issue maybe he is not American ?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]tonypluto wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Problem I have is the Republicans think because they are mean equates to Conservatism . The are just mean liberals :)Libertarians are true conservatives another bullshit point is Social conservatism equates to draconian regulations on normal behavior[/quote]

If the article had said Strong men are more likely to vote Libertarian, I would have believed it. Although Libertarianism is Conservatism to its extreme, Conservatism means something entirely different today than when it was founded. I would say that Ron Paul was probably the only conservative Republican candidate.

If I were allowed to vote, I’d vote Libertarian.
If I were asked what I really wanted, Well that would be Pure Anarchy.[/quote]

You’re 22 why can’t you vote? Criminal justice problems?

And by the way most libertarians are young males. NOT ALL OF THEM, but most. And we both know why.[/quote]

Just curious , what does his age have to do with it ?
[/quote]

I thought that was rather obvious. But just for you I’ll explain. If someone cannot vote it’s usually one of two things.

  1. They are under the voting age

  2. They have been found guilty of a felony

There are other reasons but those are the two major ones.

Therefore, I commented on his age, being 22 he is of legal age to vote. So there must me another reason.

Now don’t say that I don’t like you Pit after that detailed explanation.

Zeb[/quote]

You act as though he being 22 is an issue , There may me another issue maybe he is not American ?
[/quote]

I think he was saying being 22 is not the issue. That’s why he said, “there must be another reason.”

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]tonypluto wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Problem I have is the Republicans think because they are mean equates to Conservatism . The are just mean liberals :)Libertarians are true conservatives another bullshit point is Social conservatism equates to draconian regulations on normal behavior[/quote]

If the article had said Strong men are more likely to vote Libertarian, I would have believed it. Although Libertarianism is Conservatism to its extreme, Conservatism means something entirely different today than when it was founded. I would say that Ron Paul was probably the only conservative Republican candidate.

If I were allowed to vote, I’d vote Libertarian.
If I were asked what I really wanted, Well that would be Pure Anarchy.[/quote]

You’re 22 why can’t you vote? Criminal justice problems?

And by the way most libertarians are young males. NOT ALL OF THEM, but most. And we both know why.[/quote]

Just curious , what does his age have to do with it ?
[/quote]

I thought that was rather obvious. But just for you I’ll explain. If someone cannot vote it’s usually one of two things.

  1. They are under the voting age

  2. They have been found guilty of a felony

There are other reasons but those are the two major ones.

Therefore, I commented on his age, being 22 he is of legal age to vote. So there must me another reason.

Now don’t say that I don’t like you Pit after that detailed explanation.

Zeb[/quote]

You act as though he being 22 is an issue , There may me another issue maybe he is not American ?
[/quote]

I think he was saying being 22 is not the issue. That’s why he said, “there must be another reason.”[/quote]

You may be right but I don’t think so . I feel Zeb likes to discount an apposing opinion first on age then on the grounds of intellect .

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
You may be right but I don’t think so . I feel Zeb likes to discount an apposing opinion first on age then on the grounds of intellect .
[/quote]

I think he was asking why the guy couldn’t vote.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
So is Edmund Burke a libertarian/anarchist now? New spin on political-history for me atleast![/quote]

Florelius my friend what happened to your avatar? [/quote]

I was dumb enough to take a pic at a indian graveyard :wink: