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Stop the Insanity!

Not long ago there was a commercial starring a short haired blonde woman. She would pace across a stage in tights screaming: “Stop the Insanity.” Turns out she was screaming to all of the overweight people to eat right etc.

Well, I’ll borrow her words for a second to give to some of my fellow T-Men: “STOP THE INSANITY” when it comes to what you eat and when you eat it!

I have read some inane posts on this thread recently. I’m not going to single any of them out because I don’t want to embarrass anyone.

However, they go something like this:

“Should I eat 60% protein, 30% fat and 10% carbs? Or, should I eat 66% protein and 33% carbs? And exactly what time should I be doing this?”

“When I train should I drink chocolate milk? I read a study that says chocolate milk will increase your muscle absorption of protein”

“How much protein should I consume 4 hours and 22 minutes after I train?”

?Is it good to wake up every three hours when sleeping and take a protein shake.?

“Should I consume 4200 calories or 4400 calories if I’m trying gain mass?”

Okay, you get the idea.

No one is claiming that you shouldn’t try to understand the human body better and take advantage of when it is most receptive. However, do these guys really measure up an exact protein drink? Do they actually count right down to the last calorie how much they are ingesting during the course of a day, every day? Do they measure exactly how much protein they take day in and day out?

Hey, I think there is a better way. It’s called having fun! When you are finished training mix up a good Grow! protein shake. Throw what ever flavor you want in there. Throw in a banana, or blueberries whatever you want.

I assure you if you are being that anal about your diet you won’t last long! It’s not what you can make yourself do for two months that is going to count (not talking about just before a contest) it’s what you do day in and day out for the next 5 to 40 years that will count!

And you are not going to be recording every morsel of food you eat for the next forty years. Not unless you are nuts of course. And if you are it doesn’t matter anyway huh?

Train hard and smart, eat healthy and hardy and have fun. You will get to where you want to go by enjoying what you are doing. Maybe you’ll get there a few weeks slower than the next guy (then again maybe not), but you won’t be burned out from counting every single calorie, carb and gram of protein. That means you might just keep the muscle that you wanted so badly in the first place.

Use some common sense. It’s not about who gets there the fastest and then loses it. It’s who gets there and stays there, or even improves after he gets there!

I’ve echoed this same sentiment in many a thread. Short of pre-contest conditions, some of the over analysis of training and diet I’ve ever seen have been on these threads in the past couple of months.

Attention to detail is fine, missing out on life and its offerings to consume a P$F meal or a P&C meal is ridiculous. I won’t begrudge someone for choosing that lifestyle, I just think it’s an impossible style to maintain. It sets you up for failure.

Lift hard. Eat smart. Have fun. Enjoy life with the body and attitude created from your discipline.

Ok guys, haven’t we bashed Powda enough? :wink:

[quote]randman wrote:
Ok guys, haven’t we bashed Powda enough? ;)[/quote]

Did anyone notice that JW is also MIA?
And neither has opined on the Gay Marriage thread--------hmmm

True words, Zeb. Like Sasquatch, I’ve talked about this on the forums. People get caught up in the details and forget the other 90% of things they hvae to do.

Train hard, eat right, rest up and enjoy your life. Here’s a thought - maybe being fit, lifting weights, etc is actually meant to improve your life and not take it over. Weird, I know.

I, too think a positive periodic reminder like this is helpful.

I believe it was about a year ago I was warning against obsessing over minutia. Other authorities were too.

I empathize with some persons’ enthusiasm but… Most people just don’t measure foods or record diet logs continually. Those that DO might want to lighten up to periodic self-assessments (one per mesocycle at most)while entrenching good overall habits like dietary variety, more fruits and vegetables, low fat dairy intake, etc.

The truth is, I cannot tell you at this moment whether I’m consuming 2800 or 3200 kcal daily. Grams of protein? Probably somewhere around 175 per day. But I imagine these variables are darn close to my goals over the long haul. And the next time I analyze my diet (probably within the year) I’ll have a better feel for my general “non-competition” intake.

An interesting side note on this issue:

How do you get OUT of being so detailed orientated? I have been tracking and weighing everything I have eaten(for the most part) for the last 2 years. I have realized that I need to ease up a bit but I have totally forgotten how to eat any other way.

I am litterly lost when I try to eat in a normal fashion on a day to day basis. It is like I have become addicted to a food log.

Anyone been through this and have some insight to offer?

Did you really just type litterly?

On a serious note, I had the same problem before… not to the extent of a food log, but I was counting every detail and was very picky about what I put in and when.

I just one day realized that I was being too strict and made the concious decision to cheat, or splurge… just let it out… .and it felt good. I feel I’ve made better progress in my training because of it.

I am an Engineer. Numbers happen to be my first language, english my (distant) second :slight_smile:

I deserved to be called out for being too lazy to use spellcheck though :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah it was tongue in cheek too bro.
Hell, being well versed in numbers, it’s no wonder you have an affinity to count and tally what you eat. But just make the decision to splurge every once in a while and eventually you’ll be less strict as time goes on… at least that’s what happened to me.

Great thread ZEB. I’m a believer in just getting yourself into good habits: five meals a day minimum, no dietary garbage, plenty of protein, a good lifting schedule, regular deep sleep (still having problems with that one). I remember reading something Paul Kelso once wrote about what an old Olympic lifter told Tommy Kono sometime in the 80’s: “This shit is getting too complicated.”

keeping a detailed log was great for me because intitially my actually intake was pretty far off fromm what i thought it was. at first i was able to keep a strict log for two months. from the log i grew better at learning where i was. now i keep a log the for a week every three months or so. keeps me on track but no way i could keep it all the time. still those weeks i do keep it i usually learn something or notice something i hadn’t before.

Helix, what you said makes a lot of sense, I just wish I had some sage advice to give you. The best I can say is to maybe plan 2 or 3 meals a day and then fly by the seat of your pants with the rest. Or maybe start by still planning 4 and drop from there until you don’t even think about it anymore.

[quote]bry151 wrote:
On a serious note, I had the same problem before… not to the extent of a food log, but I was counting every detail and was very picky about what I put in and when.

I just one day realized that I was being too strict and made the concious decision to cheat, or splurge… just let it out… .and it felt good. I feel I’ve made better progress in my training because of it.[/quote]

Did you really just type “concious?”

This is the very first time that I have ever corrected anyone. I only did it because you unfairly called out another for a similar problem.

I think I make more spelling errors than anyone. Let’s not get “anal” about spelling while we are discussing how not to be anal about our dietary habits!

[quote]T-Bone81 wrote:
Helix, what you said makes a lot of sense, I just wish I had some sage advice to give you. The best I can say is to maybe plan 2 or 3 meals a day and then fly by the seat of your pants with the rest. Or maybe start by still planning 4 and drop from there until you don’t even think about it anymore.[/quote]

You could start with one day per week where you simply eat a good healthy diet without tracking every morsel of food. Then stretch it to two days, etc…

[quote]sasquatch wrote:
randman wrote:
Ok guys, haven’t we bashed Powda enough? :wink:

Did anyone notice that JW is also MIA?
And neither has opined on the Gay Marriage thread--------hmmm[/quote]

I am not.
I simply have nothing to say about much lately.

Zeb, I totaly agree with your original posting on this thread. However, I think some may be just rationalizing their laziness? I mean, if one’s bodybuilding nutritional plan is interfearing with one’s life, THEN it’s a problem. I’ve been living by a set nutritional plan for years and still enjoy life. With me, if I don’t have a day’s meals planned out in advance than I simply won’t eat enough, period. Besides, at a bare minimum you’re most always going to be home in the morning (breakfast) and before bed (pre-bed meal) so thats 2 “give-away” meals, it’s only the other 4 that ya gotta plan (or worry about). I mean, too each his own, but you simply gotta do what works and if that means lugging a couple of tupperweare’d meals around with you, then so be it. Right?

Just for fun, I decided to mix chocolate milk powder, whey protein, and non-fat milk up as a low fat after workout drink. Goddamn but was it good.

[quote]Joe Weider wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
randman wrote:
Ok guys, haven’t we bashed Powda enough? :wink:

Did anyone notice that JW is also MIA?
And neither has opined on the Gay Marriage thread--------hmmm

I am not.
I simply have nothing to say about much lately.
[/quote]

Glad to know you are at least still lurking!