Stimulus Jobs FAIL in L.A.

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
The Cubans just laid off 500,000 government workers, imagine that, Communists reducing government, the sky is falling. [/quote]

All they now have to do is get to the US illegally, since legal immigration doesn’t matter anymore, and Obama will give them all a government job since that is the biggest job growth sector in the US. This is going to work out great![/quote]

LOL!

Illegal immigration does not apply to Cubans :slight_smile:

Cold War politics and Maimi Cuban exile community ensure that cuban immigrants become legal, no matter how they got here. If a Cuban puts one foot in American soil he or she gets a greencard.

You gotta understand Cuban immigration is NOT the same as L.American immigration. From Cuba everyone from intellectuals to uneducated folk immigrate to the US, while Latin American immigration is mostly uneducated poor city/country folk. The rich, the middle class, educated, intelectuals of Latin America do not need/do not want to immigrate to the US. Whereas in Cuba most poeple, regardless of education, are poor, and all people are politically repressed.

In the words of Tony Montana: “I am a political regugee.”

p.s 95% of Cubans do NOT like Obama, nor Liberals in general.

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Most Cuban people are insulted to even be compared to those south of the border, that’s pure truth.

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[quote]Neospartan wrote:

All they now have to do is get to the US illegally, since legal immigration doesn’t matter anymore, and Obama will give them all a government job since that is the biggest job growth sector in the US. This is going to work out great![/quote]

You are correct, I misspoke. Then all they have to do is set one foot in this country and they could have government jobs supplied by Obama and paid for by those of us who are still contributing to society.

At least I have one thing in common with them. The liberal influence in this country has been its ruination.

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I think Obama is scared shitless of the Conservative uprising, and the Tea Party movement. Harry Reid is offering amnesty to help him get reelected, and Obama is pushing it too. All for the mythical Latino vote. He doesnt see that polls have 65-70% of people against it. He is losing his own reelection.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I think Obama is scared shitless of the Conservative uprising, and the Tea Party movement. Harry Reid is offering amnesty to help him get reelected, and Obama is pushing it too. All for the mythical Latino vote. He doesnt see that polls have 65-70% of people against it. He is losing his own reelection. [/quote]

Remember the first rule of politics; never interrupt your opponent when he is self-destructing.

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[quote]Neospartan wrote:

Having grown up in Cuba, I can tell you that Socialists/Communists THINK they know how to run an economy, but they actually don’t know. They are smart, no denying that. Their problem is that they think they know everything. :slight_smile:

Here is a fun example… One of the Socialist Economic questions my parents had to study were: “What is the value of potatoes? What is the value of oranges? And what is the difference in their value?”
Now remember this is not a monetary economy, so there is no PRICE level, no Demand level, and the Supply level is dictated by orders of the state.

How, I asked my parents, did you figure this shit out??? They said they didn’t, they just bullshitted their way around it. And so did their instructors, and so did the Soviet economic theory books they had to read.

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I worked with a guy who came over from the Ukraine and picked up on some of the communist economic philosophy from him, so I’ll give this a shot.

The value of the potatoes is equal to the sum of the individual potatoes contribution to the whole of potatoes.

Same with the oranges.

The difference in value is measured by the difference of their contribution to the entirety of food.(the lack of discrimination in types of food is proportional to the lack of food).

The value is quantified by inversion of the production of the number of people who will starve to death when thy don’t get one.

Therefore, if no one is going to die for not having a potato or orange, then neither is worth much because there will be no significant loss in forced labor.

When there is a great need for the food though, the value increases at a rate equal to the value that the people who want one of either places on their life.

This is also buffered by the amount of force and number of troops required to take the food from the village where it was grown and number of people who were killed or starved for not having it. These are considered net negatives. They make it cost more but worth less, and as any communist knows, the guys with the guns eat first.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I think Obama is scared shitless of the Conservative uprising, and the Tea Party movement. Harry Reid is offering amnesty to help him get reelected, and Obama is pushing it too. All for the mythical Latino vote. He doesnt see that polls have 65-70% of people against it. He is losing his own reelection. [/quote]

Remember the first rule of politics; never interrupt your opponent when he is self-destructing.[/quote]

I’ve been waiting for this for a while now. I think Obamas handlers have been keeping him away from microphones and public speaking in general, knowing that it would be an eventual consequence of letting him talk too much or too often.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Neospartan wrote:

Having grown up in Cuba, I can tell you that Socialists/Communists THINK they know how to run an economy, but they actually don’t know. They are smart, no denying that. Their problem is that they think they know everything. :slight_smile:

Here is a fun example… One of the Socialist Economic questions my parents had to study were: “What is the value of potatoes? What is the value of oranges? And what is the difference in their value?”
Now remember this is not a monetary economy, so there is no PRICE level, no Demand level, and the Supply level is dictated by orders of the state.

How, I asked my parents, did you figure this shit out??? They said they didn’t, they just bullshitted their way around it. And so did their instructors, and so did the Soviet economic theory books they had to read.

[/quote]

I worked with a guy who came over from the Ukraine and picked up on some of the communist economic philosophy from him, so I’ll give this a shot.

The value of the potatoes is equal to the sum of the individual potatoes contribution to the whole of potatoes.

Same with the oranges.

The difference in value is measured by the difference of their contribution to the entirety of food.(the lack of discrimination in types of food is proportional to the lack of food).

The value is quantified by inversion of the production of the number of people who will starve to death when thy don’t get one.

Therefore, if no one is going to die for not having a potato or orange, then neither is worth much because there will be no significant loss in forced labor.

When there is a great need for the food though, the value increases at a rate equal to the value that the people who want one of either places on their life.

This is also buffered by the amount of force and number of troops required to take the food from the village where it was grown and number of people who were killed or starved for not having it. These are considered net negatives. They make it cost more but worth less, and as any communist knows, the guys with the guns eat first.

[/quote]

LOL!!!

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I think Obama is scared shitless of the Conservative uprising, and the Tea Party movement. Harry Reid is offering amnesty to help him get reelected, and Obama is pushing it too. All for the mythical Latino vote. He doesnt see that polls have 65-70% of people against it. He is losing his own reelection. [/quote]

Remember the first rule of politics; never interrupt your opponent when he is self-destructing.[/quote]

I’ve been waiting for this for a while now. I think Obamas handlers have been keeping him away from microphones and public speaking in general, knowing that it would be an eventual consequence of letting him talk too much or too often.
[/quote]

He is essentially an academic. When he speaks, he lectures and most people don’t really like that. On top of that he now has a record to defend which in light of what has occurred is indefensible. Yes, by all means, let him speak.

Another issue is all of the rats jumping ship. In particular the economic advisors. I find the timing quite interesting and wonder who will be next. I am as excited about this mid-term election as I was in 94’ when the republicans picked up 54 seats in the House and eight seats in the Senate. Taking control of both houses of congress. If this can happen again Obama will be shut down for the remainder of his term. We may even be able to reverse or impede some of the policy pushed through earlier. Sweet!

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I think Obama is scared shitless of the Conservative uprising, and the Tea Party movement. Harry Reid is offering amnesty to help him get reelected, and Obama is pushing it too. All for the mythical Latino vote. He doesnt see that polls have 65-70% of people against it. He is losing his own reelection. [/quote]

Remember the first rule of politics; never interrupt your opponent when he is self-destructing.[/quote]

I’ve been waiting for this for a while now. I think Obamas handlers have been keeping him away from microphones and public speaking in general, knowing that it would be an eventual consequence of letting him talk too much or too often.
[/quote]

He is essentially an academic. When he speaks, he lectures and most people don’t really like that. On top of that he now has a record to defend which in light of what has occurred is indefensible. Yes, by all means, let him speak.

Another issue is all of the rats jumping ship. In particular the economic advisors. I find the timing quite interesting and wonder who will be next. I am as excited about this mid-term election as I was in 94’ when the republicans picked up 54 seats in the House and eight seats in the Senate. Taking control of both houses of congress. If this can happen again Obama will be shut down for the remainder of his term. We may even be able to reverse or impede some of the policy pushed through earlier. Sweet![/quote]

Didn’t another of his economic advisors resign, to go back and tech at Harvard? I thought I saw this on Fox News yesterday.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I think Obama is scared shitless of the Conservative uprising, and the Tea Party movement. Harry Reid is offering amnesty to help him get reelected, and Obama is pushing it too. All for the mythical Latino vote. He doesnt see that polls have 65-70% of people against it. He is losing his own reelection. [/quote]

Remember the first rule of politics; never interrupt your opponent when he is self-destructing.[/quote]

I’ve been waiting for this for a while now. I think Obamas handlers have been keeping him away from microphones and public speaking in general, knowing that it would be an eventual consequence of letting him talk too much or too often.
[/quote]

He is essentially an academic. When he speaks, he lectures and most people don’t really like that. On top of that he now has a record to defend which in light of what has occurred is indefensible. Yes, by all means, let him speak.

Another issue is all of the rats jumping ship. In particular the economic advisors. I find the timing quite interesting and wonder who will be next. I am as excited about this mid-term election as I was in 94’ when the republicans picked up 54 seats in the House and eight seats in the Senate. Taking control of both houses of congress. If this can happen again Obama will be shut down for the remainder of his term. We may even be able to reverse or impede some of the policy pushed through earlier. Sweet![/quote]

Didn’t another of his economic advisors resign, to go back and tech at Harvard? I thought I saw this on Fox News yesterday. [/quote]

Yes, Larry Summers left one fantasy land to go back to another.