T Nation

"Stem Cell Secrets Exposed" Video


#126

A government run by and for the corporations, bud. A natural progression of Capitalism.


#127

What’s the matter? Can’t admit that the Nordic countries have stronger social programs than the U.S. and are doing absolutely fine?


#128

Good riddance. You continually offer lame excuses when you can’t answer logically, lol.


#129

Sorry missed the low quality evidence statement. But it is still a procedure that is not within the realm of choice of the public. Unless they go to a clinic that is flying under FDA radar. Why shouldn’t this at least be a CHOICE the public has, instead of going out of the country? Well at least they now have a choice in Texas with HB810 passing.

Thought you were leaving?


#130

I was the one who pointed out that they have more welfare BUT have more economic freedom and lower corporate taxes than the US coupled with a gradual declining trend in government spending with charts and accredited ratings to show this.

You tried to debunk one of my charts with THE SAME CHART I POSTED claiming my chart was procured from an evil capitalist organization. You thought it was different because you don’t fucking know how to zoom out to a longer timeframe.

Your attempt to show the efficacy of their system prior to increasing economic freedom resulted in you posting a report on how their current system was unsustainable and more economic freedom was required. Because you didn’t read it, you accused me of selectively copying and pasting text from the report “to fit my ideology”.

Then YOU tried to argue by selectively copying and pasting text from a report on financial liberalization in the Nordic countries. A report which completely went against your position in it’s conclusion because you either thought no one would bother to find the report and post it or you didn’t comprehend the report.

Then you tried to argue against both the reports you posted with your usual pointless catchphrases.

You are full of lies.

That is not a statement, It is an ENTIRE PARAGRAPH describing the MAJORITY of the evidence presented is of “low quality”. And it is the most important part because it renders the entire study unreliable by any reasonable standard of evidence.

You either purposefully omitted to display this part or you did not read the study in it’s entirety. I’m leaning towards the former.

And yet you chose to post the study and make fallacious claims about it’s contents for your agenda.

You are full of lies.

More choice is GOOD.

Dishonest people like you posting fallacious claims based on unreliable evidence causing the public to rely on such “evidence” to make their choice is BAD.

If you misrepresent my posts and lie about our exchanges, I will respond and call you out for the liar that you are. This is not something you will get away with by using cheap lies. Everything previously posted is in this forum.


#131

What do you attribute their economic success prior to the declining government spending?

Oh I know why I missed the “low quality evidence” statement. Because it wasn’t in the article I read.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circresaha.116.304386

Just this: Thirty-one independent trials (1521 participants) were included. The treatment significantly reduced the risk of mortality and rehospitalization caused by HF. There was a significant improvement in favor of stem cell treatment in performance status and exercise capacity, left ventricular ejection fraction, and quality of life. The treatment was also associated with a reduction of brain natriuretic peptide levels and no increase in the incidence of arrhythmias.

But the public has this for an option. Probably high-quality evidence as these are legal drugs for consumption.

Your non-answer of choice has been rendered mute.

Care to try again?


#132

Lol, fuuuuuuck it’s hard not to say anything. 65% of Americans are on prescription drugs making 100,000 deaths equal to less than 1 tenth of 1 percent of users.
image

Honestly, wish I had a time machine so I could shoot the guy that created the internet. It’s the real Skynet.

Translation for @dt79 “Sorry, not sorry I didn’t read in the research that the quality of the evidence was low. I didn’t actually read the research just some article. It’s not my fault that I’m stupid. It’s the author’s fault!”

Take it from a guy that has wasted years with this fool. Put the thread on ignore, put him on ignore, and do your best to actually ignore him. He’s a cross between clickbait and digital aids.


#133

Capitalism. I posted the chart. You did not contest it. I can easily repost the exchange if you wish to continue lying.

Oh but you were stupid enough to post the study above:

Which means you should have read the study or you would be an irresponsible ass to make claims about the contents of something you have not verified.

If you had read it, that means that you are lying now about that article being your only exposure to the contents of the study.

Which means you either ommited to mention the “low quality evidence” on purpose or you didn’t read it.

So what are you? Irresponsible, dishonest or stupid? All 3?

Does not excuse YOUR actions. You are essentially saying that because you think others lie, you are also entitled to lie to the public in retaliation.

Deflect with unfounded statements after being proven to be:

  1. A persistant liar
  2. A poster of “evidence” from Stalinist, Maoist, Neo-Nazi, Radical Islamic websites

All while living on handouts from the publics taxes.


#134

I think you guys let the hamster references stop way too early.


#135

Yeah I’m trying. I just can’t stand the blatant lies and the socialist bullshit.

This fellow would be dangerous if 80 points were added to his IQ to bring him up to average.


#136

He’s a clown, man. He just sees something and latches onto it. No critical thinking skills what-so-ever.
CDC has drug-induced deaths at 55.4k (2015), but ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND looks like such a HUGE NUMBER to a simpleton so it must be this AWFUL thing that’s happening.

We have an opioid problem in this country (as do a lot of 1st world countries). There’s no need for such stupidity, though.


#137

I wouldn’t mind this that much if not for his constant lies.

But you’re right. I’m seriously out. I may post counters if the socialist bullshit continues but I’m done addressing him.


#138

His go-to tactic is to “play” dumb and act like you haven’t had a conversation before. I put play in quotes because I doubt he’s actually playing, just dumb. Chances are you’ll have had the conversation several times in past and more than like you had it in the same exact thread. He’ll just re-type a question as if it’s the first time he’s asked it even though it’s the 7th and you’ve answered it 6 fucking times already.

It’s a war of attrition with him and he’s a broken record. A really awful really stupid record.


#139

I used to think so. Then I recalled he said his own brother thinks he’s faking his disease. Not that I’m saying he doesn’t have a disease. There must be a consistent pattern of dishonest behavior for even a family member to think he’s lying when he says he has a disease.

Judging from the equally dumb individuals I’m met, I don’t think anyone can be too dumb to be manipulative, lying scum unless they have a severe mental defect. They are, in fact, more bold because they don’t think normal people can tell they’re full of shit.


#140

Man, I thought you were going away. Then again, I wouldn’t get the chance to see your sheer desperation to make your ideology work. It truly makes me laugh out loud.

So discount the deaths caused by prescription drugs. When they were taken as prescribed by the companies that developed them.

How many deaths have occurred by stem cell therapy?

And this still doesn’t explain why the public does not have this choice of treatment. Why would you want to deny freedom of choice?


#141

All the while being taxed heavily. But this can’t happen as we’re consistently told.

Like I said this wasn’t part of the article.

But this was. Conclusions:

This study shows evidence that autologous cell therapy may be beneficial for patients having HF

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circresaha.116.304386

And so was this. Thirty-one independent trials (1521 participants) were included. The treatment significantly reduced the risk of mortality and rehospitalization caused by HF. There was a significant improvement in favor of stem cell treatment in performance status and exercise capacity, left ventricular ejection fraction, and quality of life. The treatment was also associated with a reduction of brain natriuretic peptide levels and no increase in the incidence of arrhythmias.

All of your assertions do not preclude the public’s choice. Do they? If so, why would you want to deny the fundamental choice of the public?


#142

Why keep lying?

You said you read the STUDY.

You POSTED the STUDY first.

And NOW you deliberately left out the MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE CONCLUSION you copied and pasted from the ARTICLE:

"Conclusions:

This study shows evidence that autologous cell therapy may be beneficial for patients having HF, but further evidence is required."

You guys see this?

He’s fucking dumb but he’s still a fucking lying piece of shit.


#143

The CDC is merely a marketing arm for pharma. So many conflicts of interest. People moving from high-level positions in the CDC to lucrative jobs at pharma and sometimes back to the CDC. But you want to pretend this revolving door has no impact because your ideology dictates it.

Lessened by the legalization of medicinal cannabis Something pharma lobbied against Not seen as detrimental by you. So suffering and death would be the consequence if pharma got it’s way. Since there are so many retarded posts on here it is difficult for me to remember who actually stated that people who took medical cannabis only did so to get high. Yep all those children only wanted to get stoned. And the parents of those children only wanted to see their children get high. And suffice it to say the poster wasn’t even embarrassed to post it.


#144

What about the Capitalist bullshit?


#145

You think a right-wing talking point is an answer.