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#44

Remind your doctors that these labs are a moment frozen in time, the target is constantly moving and the averages could be lower which is probably we you feel better on TRT. Doctors have lost their way, they used to treat the symptoms and not treat the numbers.

Progesterone needs to be addressed. Free T3 is pushing into hyperthyroid territory, it’s tough to tell if it’s a problem since it’s barely over the range.

Best bet is to arm yourself with multiple studies that show a young man’s testosterone levels should be at their peak, not at the levels of an 80 year old. This is how you reach clueless but open minded doctors.


#45

Thank you so much systemlord! :slight_smile:
I have tried to instruct the doctors with that I should have the top levels at my age, but they are stupid and don’t even want to listen to that (I have tried like 4 different endo!!).

I was suspecting that my frequent HCG usage (EOD for HPTA) upscaled the Progestorone levels as before I didn’t had that high levels.

Free T3 is normally in the range but since april it is slightly above the range; this are the levels from april (it was while on TRT) FT3 (O55) 4,32 pg/ml 2,30 — 4,20

I don’t quite understand where my low levels of testosterone are coming from, what can be the cause? Before TRT I’ve had high levels of SHGB and Estradiol, which may be the issue, but I have no idea how to lower that levels.


#46

You have to understand every doctor specializes in a certain field of medicine and neither an endocrinologists or a urologist usually prescribe TRT on a regular basis, it’s not really something they specialize in and that’s why it seems like they’re all braindead.

A hormone specialists isn’t really part of the medical community, for decades it’s been done by sports medicine something the medical community wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole. TRT really comes from sports medicine and how to replace a man’s testosterone isn’t taught in medical school.

The only ones who know how to play this TRT game is those who have been doing it for decades, TRT and insurance based healthcare don’t mix well, you need to spend time with the patient and run extensive labs something doctors don’t have time to do because they have 30 patients to see in an 8 hour shift.


#47

TRT and insurance based healthcare don’t mix well, you need to spend time with the patient and run extensive labs something doctors don’t have time to do because they have 30 patients to see in an 8 hour shift.

My GP told me this after my horrible experience with the endo he referred me to. He told me doctors get paid to do something not to think. Hormones take too much time thinking and insurance doesn’t want to pay for thoughts. He told me, at least in my area, that he gets paid more as a GP than the “specialists” at the only endocrinology clinic in the state.