[quote]MMA101 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
MMA101 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
admbaum wrote:
This thread is hysterical. One of my MMA coaches is a body builder. He runs the 40 in like 5 seconds. Fighters lift, true. Training like a body builder will make a fighter slow, true. Lifting like a fighter will improve your speed and power, true. 1 day a week is not enough. I train combat sports almost everyday and I lift 3 days a week. My strength, speed, and agility increases with progressive loading and the way I lift and put my exercises together. Just google some of Randy Couture’s barbell circuits and compare that to how a body builder like Ronnie Coleman lifts. Its completely different. I’ve said this in a few threads; sport specific training requires training a sport specifically. Saying a fighter shouldn’t lift is like saying a sprinter shouldn’t squat.
Its not a Judoku, here’s some food for thought
I think people on this board simply tell people not to let lifting take over their training at the expense of skillwork.
I’d say most guys (and the women) here lift at least twice a week. And not many of us shy away from bench pressing… it’s just another exercise in the toolbox.
But I guess the REAL martial arts trainers laugh at it… whoever the fuck they are…
All I can say is all the top MMA strength and conditioning coaches do not have their fighters do bench presses. I am not aware of the exact reasoning but I guess it is because it is an isolation exercise and you are never going to be laying flat on your back pushing your hands up unless you want to get armbarred.
Wait- bench press is an isolation exercise? Seriously?
It is quite an isolated movement yes. Very different to how ts will be moving in Judo.
Again, it can be done if ts wants to, but it’s not the type of exericse a Judoka would want to be doing regularly and leading up to a competition.
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How much judo have you actually played??
got that Keru obi?
go ahead google that and come back.
do you teach? you rocking the shodan ?
not so much.
how much time have you actually trained?
how many times a day, week ect. and for how many years.
and to qoute Dan John if the bench is an isolation exercise, while your doing it if I stick a fork in your calf would it change your ability to bench?
get a clue.
go back to the rock you crawled out of
kmc