Check out this new video from the SuperTraining Camp. I have been following Efferding and his lifting since before he started training at ST. He is CRAZY strong, there is no doubt in my mind he is the strongest pro bodybuilder.
I think he will SMASH what he put together at his old raw meet when he does his next comp in a few weeks.
This should be fun to follow. I wish him the best. The guy is freak strong!
So does it really matter where your arms during a bench? That guy's arms are no where near where Dave Tate's video shows. His are where the majority of people have them during a bench, elbows straight out east and west.
Yeah, there's a tuck. Also, you can't really have elbows on your side in raw lifting, the groove is different than shirted. If you tuck too much it puts a ton of strain on the shoulders and you're way weaker than any other "stance".
I have a little trick to find the raw groove. Take the empty bar at lockout, tuck as much as possible. Then lower the bar to your chest and "release". Your elbows should find their strongest position themselves.
Show me anyone who benches big raw with that style. You won't find anyone. That is great form for benching in the shirt, but you can't press big like that raw. The ideal line for raw benching is a lot higher on the chest.
You are trying to tell me that his forearms are perpendicular to the ground and he is touching the bar down by his "naval"? LOL you must have rocks in your head.
I think this is the problem with the internet. It is so easy to misunderstand people. I freaken like Stan and I like what he is doing for raw lifting. I was responding to someone else who thinks that raw lifters should bench the same way as equipped guys. Perp forearms, LOW touching on the belly etc. It is not going to happen. Good raw pressers bench more like Stan with a higher line and less tuck of the elbows.
Pretty sure Stan's arms are perpendicular to the floor anyway... it'd be a modded JM press otherwise. You can keep your forearms perp. to the floor however you bench, just means flaring your elbows a bit more.