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Squatting to Failure?


#1

Ok so i know you have to push yourself on squats. My question is do you train to failure on them?

i.e say you squatted x amount of weight for 5 reps and on the 6th you get half or even a quarter of the way up and have someone help you raise it. Is this good or should you stop before you reach this point of failure and leave 1 in the tank or whatever?


#2

Failure with a loaded bar on your back could mean failure in life. I wouldn't mess with this with someone else's spine.

I would say the goal with any kind of axial loading should be to never miss a rep, leave one or more in the tank.


#3

Well its not like im completely failed i just mean a slight touch about 3/4s out of parrallel (if you see what i mean?)

Still a no go?


#4

failing in a power rack is fun if you're in a gym that doesn't punish you for being loud. the first time i tried 335x1 i had to dump it, and had a similar issue when i tried to front squat 245x1. i'm sure having failed reps all the time isn't a good thing, but sometimes it's fun to see how far you can go with it. i don't see any danger in failing on a front squat.

personally, i've been doing 5/3/1 for my back squat, so there are those built in "or more" sets where you can push it to the limit if you'd really like to. sometimes i go for only smooth/explosive reps, but sometimes i'll keep cranking them out till i feel like i'm gonna pass out.

some guys who are more jacked than me might have something different to say, but those are my experiences


#5

As long as its your legs and not your back that is doing the failure, it's fine. I'd consider it a failed rep if you can't keep form, even if you can muscle it up.