Spot The Racist

conservativedog · December 15, 2012, 1:53am

[quote]nickj_777 wrote:
I was uncomfortable with the whole “favorite black person” thread because it zeros out a community for no particular reason. One has to question why that thread was created. Was it created to show that one is not a racist because he or she likes “certain” black people? Was the official poster thinking in his head “I am not a racist because I like these black people who reaffirm my own personal view of the world,” ? The OP seems to be in a constant state of confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance by only consuming what he thinks about the world and disregarding any information that does not support his presuppositions.

*** You may be a racist if you feel the need to point out your favorite minorities and you may be a racist if people tell you that you are a racist. It is like those people who say I am not a racist because I have a Korean friend. The I have a minority friend argument is futile is you still say ignorant things and denigrate another group.[/quote]

What an odyssey you have taken us on. Of all the people posting I would really like to see your face and your eyes. Personally I think you live in a fuckin cabin making bombs all day.

How can you and a few others here judge someone you have never met with such ease and go into such detail judging them yet fail to see there is no difference in that and racism?

We had a woman field supervisor years ago that would be so condescending to some of the men under her watch. When a suspension was brought on by her actions she stated in the hearing “How can I be sexist? I’m a woman. I can’t be sexist, I’m not male??”

nickj_777 · December 15, 2012, 2:10am

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]nickj_777 wrote:
I was uncomfortable with the whole “favorite black person” thread because it zeros out a community for no particular reason. One has to question why that thread was created. Was it created to show that one is not a racist because he or she likes “certain” black people? Was the official poster thinking in his head “I am not a racist because I like these black people who reaffirm my own personal view of the world,” ? The OP seems to be in a constant state of confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance by only consuming what he thinks about the world and disregarding any information that does not support his presuppositions.

*** You may be a racist if you feel the need to point out your favorite minorities and you may be a racist if people tell you that you are a racist. It is like those people who say I am not a racist because I have a Korean friend. The I have a minority friend argument is futile is you still say ignorant things and denigrate another group.[/quote]

What an odyssey you have taken us on. Of all the people posting I would really like to see your face and your eyes. Personally I think you live in a fuckin cabin making bombs all day.

How can you and a few others here judge someone you have never met with such ease and go into such detail judging them yet fail to see there is no difference in that and racism?

We had a woman field supervisor years ago that would be so condescending to some of the men under her watch. When a suspension was brought on by her actions she stated in the hearing “How can I be sexist? I’m a woman. I can’t be sexist, I’m not male??” [/quote]

My point through all this is that you are obsessed with starting threads that signal out groups such as minorities, liberals, non-law enforcement government employees and the media. You judge all them and type cast them into groups that are socially destructive to society. You uphold your views as the pillars that society should adopt and cast judgement upon those who do not conform to your sense of what utopia is.

I have the utmost respect for law enforcement but I do not respect those who judge others so harshly and cast them out. You do not respect others who judge others apparently so I guess we just showed consensus in the PWI thread.

nickj_777 · December 15, 2012, 2:08am

By the way that chick is a dick. Gender does not preclude the ability to be an asshole and of course women can be sexist.

conservativedog · December 15, 2012, 2:46am

[quote]smh23 wrote:
It is racist to choose to believe that blacks are genetically predisposed to crime given that there is not conclusive evidence of this claim. If you don’t believe that, you should say so. In which case I apologize and rescind the charge.

You also seem to be particularly interested in/preoccupied with black crime. If you live in Detroit or Brownsville and are a cop, this is understandable. But it also isn’t not racist, you know what I mean?[/quote]

smh you and I are on a different plane. I am arguing in the larger sense the ridiculousness and irony that surrounds the use of calling someone a racist when the evidence points to the exact opposite.

Orwell wrote it and I can’t improve on it… “Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.”
George Orwell

Read that again and think about our access to information. I mentioned that the Fox News network is under a large threat of it’s ability to continue it’s programming. It is under threat of a massive smear campaign and investigations & harassment of it’s employees. Once it becomes too expensive for them to continue, the liberals will have cornered the news market.

I have repeatedly laid out evidence of the lopsided murders of whites by blacks and you have repeatedly & in many different posts stated “not conclusive evidence of this claim.”

Racism is hate and murder is a passionate heated hate. You refuse to locate crime stats that are available but not conveniently posted by your news stations and newspapers. In the past every news story had the who, what, when and where information to describe these stories. The who and what has been unsparingly removed. Please trust me on this.

Find me similar murders of blacks by poor inner city whites in the last 30 years and then explain why there are so few. Why is that? Are poor inner city whites genetically predisposed not to murder blacks or rape black women? Why do you think there are so few? Try to see it in terms of “affirmative action? numbers” shouldn’t there be a near equal number of white on black murders and rapes especially because there are so many more whites? And wouldn’t that prove beyond a doubt how much hatred they have for blacks, how much racism there is? But the murder rates are lopsided in the opposite direction. Why can’t you see who has the more passionate hate and racism towards the other?

You are particularly disinterested and not preoccupied with violent black crime because it has not personally entered your domain. Please look me up when it does and we can continue.

conservativedog · December 15, 2012, 2:40am

[quote]nickj_777 wrote:
By the way that chick is a dick. Gender does not preclude the ability to be an asshole and of course women can be sexist. [/quote]

Yes. You and I agree on that.

I was hoping it might illuminate the lopsided use of racism accusations by blacks while they too are guilty of hate crimes. The American press refuses to describe the nature of their crimes and attitudes by the same standard.

NEWS FLASH they didn’t fire black commentator like they do white commentator:

ESPN’s Parker Suspended For Cornball Brother Comments Toward Robert Griffin III

H_factor · December 15, 2012, 3:42am

If you say you’re not racist then I’ll believe you and agree you aren’t racist. However, for someone NOT racist you sure do seem to spend a whole hell of a lot of your time bringing up racism and largely in a negative towards blacks manner. It isn’t like you started one thread saying let’s discuss racism in America and laid out some scenarios. You have frequent rants on racism. Again, it’s usually a good rule of thumb that if you have to spend a ton of time telling people you’re NOT racist that you usually are. But again, if you tell me you aren’t racist I’ll believe you. But for someone who’s not racist race is something you feel like talking about a whole, whole, whole lot. And for someone who doesn’t feel negative about blacks you sure do seem to talk about negative aspects of blacks a whole, whole, whole lot.

Look I live in the middle of bum fuck Egypt Kansas. In a county that has very few minorities. The majority of people here aren’t racist. But we have quite a few confederate flag truck having, racist joke mainly telling, good ol boys who can’t tell you a single political reason, but KNOW they fucking hate Obama. They will tell you to turn off that ****** music when they hear rap. They will point out that obviously we lost the football game because the other team was the right color.

But wonder out loud if these guys are racist and they will say shit no, hell I work with a good black guy! I know the type well, shit I’ve lived my whole life in small towns and small counties like this.

Usually, as a rule, if you have to explain a whole lot of stuff away about yourself that most of society deems as fairly racist in my experience these people usually are indeed racist. That’s all I think.

But honestly, if you tell me you aren’t racist I’ll believe you. I just have no idea why that seems to be all you want to talk about mostly.

smh23 · December 15, 2012, 3:58am

[quote]H factor wrote:

Look I live in the middle of bum fuck Egypt Kansas. In a county that has very few minorities. The majority of people here aren’t racist. But we have quite a few confederate flag truck having, racist joke mainly telling, good ol boys who can’t tell you a single political reason, but KNOW they fucking hate Obama. They will tell you to turn off that nigger music when they hear rap. They will point out that obviously we lost the football game because the other team was the right color.

But wonder out loud if these guys are racist and they will say shit no, hell I work with a good black guy! I know the type well, shit I’ve lived my whole life in small towns and small counties like this.
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This is the case almost everywhere. I mean, there are surely some toothless fucks out there who really honestly can’t look at a black guy without choking on revulsion.

But for the most part, it’s more like what you’ve described. My dad grew up in Memphis in the '40s. He spent all day with the family’s black maid, Daisy. His parents would come home shouting about blacks (they used a different word) and this and that and desegregation and etc. And he’d say, “but what about Daisy?”

“Oh no, honey, Daisy is a lady.”

That’s how most racism is today: abstract. “I don’t want a black guy marrying my daughter, I don’t want one in the White House. But that black guy I work with? I’d trust him with my life. That’s different.”

H_factor · December 15, 2012, 4:12am

Another thing that I think usually means people have some deep seated resentment towards minorities is if you ALWAYS feel like pointing out that things would be different if a white person did that. Most of the time I even agree, but anytime anything happens my first thought isn’t “hot damn can you imagine what would happen if a white guy did that?!”

Yeah, you’re right and I agree. Some things ARE different based on race and that is still definitely a problem. But it doesn’t dominate my mind that as a white guy the rules are a bit different for me. I think as a white guy I’ve had it pretty damn good most of my life so flipping out that if a white person did this instead of a black person can you imagine the backlash isn’t usually something that even crosses my mind.

smh23 · December 15, 2012, 4:10am

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

I have repeatedly laid out evidence of the lopsided murders of whites by blacks and you have repeatedly & in many different posts stated “not conclusive evidence of this claim.”

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But this is not what I’ve said. I’m not attacking you here, I’m being very serious:

I’m well aware of crime stats. I covered crime for a newspaper in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn. I am pretty sure that every single murder I wrote about was committed either by a black guy or a latino.

Again: I know very well that blacks commit more violent crime than whites.

What I am also saying–and this is the important part–is that it is circumstance and not some sort of genetic racial defect which explains this. As I said to you a while back: there is a reason why kids born in Scarsdale, Westchester end up in law school while kids born to crack-addicted mothers in rat-infested central Brooklyn end up dead or in prison. And it’s got jack shit to do with melanin.

If you do not believe this–if you believe, despite the fact that science has not said so, that criminality is born of racial-genetic inferiority–then you are by definition a white supremacist.

This is my simple point. And again, man–if you tell me you don’t believe this, I will obviously not bring it up. But if you do believe it, you’re a white supremacist. That is not a slur or an attack, it is a fact.

smh23 · December 15, 2012, 4:10am

[quote]H factor wrote:
Another thing that I think usually means people have some deep seated resentment towards minorities is if you ALWAYS feel like pointing out that things would be different if a white person did that. Most of the time I even agree, but anytime anything happens my first thought isn’t “hot damn can you imagine what would happen if a white guy did that?!”

Yeah, you’re right and I agree. Some things ARE different based on race and that is still definitely a problem. But it doesn’t dominate my mind that as a white guy the rules are a bit different for me. I think as a white guy I’ve had it pretty damn good most of my life so flipping out that if a white person did this instead of a black person can you imagine the backlash isn’t usually something that even crosses my mind. [/quote]

Well said.

ZEB · December 15, 2012, 4:15am

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
Do you shout “I’m not racist!” out in real life or is it something you save for this message board?

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Do you pretend to be something other than a liberal in real life, or is it something you save for this message board?[/quote]

Do you pretend to care about big government only when Democrats are in office, or is it something you do when Republicans are in office as well?

Wait a second, we already know the answer to that one. If it makes you feel better to call me a liberal go ahead. I’m sure it makes C-Dog feel better to constantly explain to everyone why he’s not racist. [/quote]

That’s odd I never see you questioning liberals about big government. You seem to zero in on conservatives on the topic. But the left growing government just doesn’t bother you at the same level huh…LLLLEFTY![/quote]

Show me the posts where I show I am unbothered by the left growing government. Go on, I’ll wait. Show me where I’ve claimed the left growing government doesn’t matter. All I ever wonder is why people like you defend it when the right is in office. If you can find a post where I say don’t worry about the left growing government you’ll “out” me. Too bad you can’t do that.

The difference between us Zeb is I’m ACTUALLY against big government. I don’t want it in my personal life or in the personal lives of others. You do. I don’t want it to become bigger and bigger whether it’s Reagan, Bush, Obama, Clinton, whoever. You do. You want the red pill version of big government. You’ll defend the red pill version. But get the blue pill in power and it’s all about how evil the government is and how we don’t need it.

The names and letters matter to you Zeb. They matter big time. It’s why you’ll praise Reagan, defend Bush, and attack Obama even if all three men do the same thing! I ask why and so you desperately try to change the subject (as usual).

Names and letters don’t matter to me except in the sense that I know both names and letters have a history of consistently growing the government to huge levels. The minutiae doesn’t matter. That big fact does. Sure you’ll try and explain why one side it isn’t a big deal, but the other side is, but I’ll just say it’s indefensible. For both sides it is.

I’ll be waiting for you to show me the posts where I’ve done ANYTHING positive about the left other than wonder out loud where you were in 07. Or why you don’t mind that Reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times, but really mind that Obama did. Or why Benghazi is the biggest deal in history, but defended Bush over Iraq till you were blue in the face.

This is over Zeb. We outed you long ago. With your own words we outed you. Now I’ll wait to see if you do the same for me. Show me where I’ve said this big government from the left is good. Show me some posts like I showed you. All I’ve showed is hmm, seems mighty familiar, like something the Republicans already did. You’re saying we need to replace all these Democrats and I fully agree with you. But why replace them with the Republicans? Why go back and forth and back and forth through the same bullshit? [/quote]

Save your time explaining why you’re not a liberal to those who have not read your many posts. To those of us who have read your posts you are wasting your time because we know you’re a LLLEFTY!

Why can’t you just be proud of what you are?

You think attacking the right while claiming to be a “libertarian” is going to help your cause?

By the way you’ve mentioned Ron Paul maybe one time in all your posts.

Ha ha…

We know what you are other than being a phoney that is…

kamui · December 15, 2012, 4:19am

[quote]conservativedog wrote:
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I knew it ! You are a socialist !

H_factor · December 15, 2012, 4:23am

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
Another thing that I think usually means people have some deep seated resentment towards minorities is if you ALWAYS feel like pointing out that things would be different if a white person did that. Most of the time I even agree, but anytime anything happens my first thought isn’t “hot damn can you imagine what would happen if a white guy did that?!”

Yeah, you’re right and I agree. Some things ARE different based on race and that is still definitely a problem. But it doesn’t dominate my mind that as a white guy the rules are a bit different for me. I think as a white guy I’ve had it pretty damn good most of my life so flipping out that if a white person did this instead of a black person can you imagine the backlash isn’t usually something that even crosses my mind. [/quote]

Well said.[/quote]

Lol. Oh why sick cruel God? Why make both my parents be white? Now I can’t even say the N word without getting yelled at like black people can. And I’d get in much more trouble if I said what that black commentator did! What did I do to deserve this cursed, wretched, white skin?! How have I even made it this far in life?

H_factor · December 15, 2012, 5:12am