[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Ok, this might be a long post so bear with me. I’ll try to make this as short as possible.
Anyways…ok so I took 6 months away from drugs, reached 285 pounds and hit some new levels of strength that I had never before. Bench press 430x3 and front squat 370x5 among some other things. After having this long period of time off I decided to get back on something and opted for a test/tren/dbol cycle.
I began the cycle and about 1 1/2 weeks in I had to do a crazy work week, nine 12 hour shifts in a row with only 1-2 meals per day (literally no breaks). After this I came out at around 279 pounds and obviously my strength had decreased some. Well now almost 4 weeks later, working with 1g/week of test as well as being on day 3 of my tren/dbol portion I’m only back up to 281 or so and my numbers are sucking balls. Using the same example bench is 405x5 and front squat is 315x5, I am also plateauing like a mother fucker. I don’t see how this is possible considering the amount of drugs I am using? Just doesn’t seem right.
Couple things:
- Source was suggested to me by a vet here so I highly doubt my product is bad, not to mention when it didn’t arrive on time source resent with nothing but my word, and everything looks like it should.
- I am eating the same amount of food that I was when I reached 285 and was still gaining.
- Suffering a little depression at the moment, having some pretty serious nerve/muscle issues that I will be getting professional help for starting next week
- Maybe added stress from school is a problem?
Bottom line is, I feel like I am wasting a time were I should be getting some massive growth and I have no idea what I am doing wrong. If anyone has any suggestions I am all ears, maybe I just need a day off? I don’t know. I just don’t see how it is possible to stagnate when on a dose of that size and eating plenty of food. (I will immediately increase calories now though)
I just feel like I’ve lost my mojo and am having a ton of trouble getting my aggression, intensity and killer instinct back to were it needs to be.
Thanks guys.[/quote]
I flicked over some of the replies and i believe WHB (the great guy he is!) mentioned what i am about to say.
This has happened to me… It was when i learnt one of the most important lessons in relation to PED use.
If my body is not ready to grow, then no amount of training, food or drugs will make it. it simply will not do it.
You can not grow indefinitely. It is impossible. if it were then there would be guys nearing 1000lbs of rock solid muscle!
Prisoner helped me through my first period you describe - and he did so with some small and very useful tips.
He told me that bodybuilding is more than just buidling muscle, and all the things we associate with it.
It is also having the mental fortitude to back off when necessary - and in this case, have the strength of character to continue training and eating and everything when all we are doing is maintaining.
hen this happens it is best to not force the issue. Keep dosages moderate or even drop them for a while, train but not to burnout levels and eat well but neither to gain (in excess) or to lose (deficit).
Then, when our body is ready to grow again - it will.
And it does. Trust me.
It will be of interest to note that i have done a couple of cycles before where i have not made any startling progress - and they have both been high dose cycles… 2g of AAS/wk.
I now do not use those doses anymore as for me (and all) simply increasing the dose does NOT guarantee an increase in growth.
My current cycle is just 525mg of Test/wk and 350mg of Drol! 875mg of AAS a week! that is fuck all by anyones standards, but it has been enough to promote growth in me and has been a very enjoyable cycle (just done 3 weeks so far)
Truth is, i was supposed to be dosing the drol at 700mg/wk - but i was dosing 25mg 2x/day instead of 50mg 2x/day by accident - but the fact is i have been really pleased with the results i got even when i though i was on twice the dosage!
Point is - it is not as cut an dried as AAS+food = growth. You have to be physiologivally ready to grow - and if you have just had a long period where this was happening, it may well be time you had a rest (ie. your body resting from growing - not YOU literally resting).
JJ