I totally understand what you guys are saying. My point was referring to guys that I personally worked with and trained for months. These guys looked awesome but were very weak (except for running)
They all got much stronger by the end of the course but for the guys I'm talking about THEY were genetically gifted. They were virtually "untrained" (no gym or pushups/pull ups at home) and had built upperbodies. I wish I had a picture of the one guy I'm mostly referring to. You would never believe his physique with the numbers he could put up lol.
Genetics aren't everything (obviously) but when you are built and ripped while having never trained and being not strong... That's genetics.
I'm not trying to have an argument here at all and I'm not sure if my post even makes sense now lol