[quote]orion wrote:
What subsidized college tuition unquestionably does is providing more college graduates than are needed by the market and those that graduate are in the wrong areas of expertise.
ElbowStrike wrote:
So investing in education is a waste.[/quote]
Where exactly does this leap in logic come from? Oh yeah, public education.
Not subsidizing is different then not investing. Also if you have seen some of these schools, many are subsidizing alcoholism and Toga parties. (Toga, toga, toga.)
Yes yes yes. Agree fully. Give my child an education instead of an indoctrination.
Fascinating, who programmed your mind? Problem is I see the current public education system doing exactly what you are trying to speak against. Creating a group of people who cannot think for themselves. To follow the group, and become part of the collective. To be good little workers.[quote]
A few years back there was a groundbreaking global economic report showing that every dollar a nation invests in education creates a 7% return on economic growth.[/quote]
Reference please. (Having trouble finding it, and thought it would be easy to find.) There is no doubt that investing in education is good, and benefits an economy. But education is not just about money. It is also not just about that piece of paper called a degree.
You can actually get knowledge without a degree. Maybe you can’t become a Doctor without one, but you can sure as hell start a Billion dollar company without one.[quote]
If those that graduate are in the wrong area of expertise, then shift your government funding to the areas that need it. In North America that’s skilled labour, so fund trades programs more and academic programs less.
Or, we could leave it up to the “free market”, keep the populace dumber and even more under-educated than they already are. Sounds like a great recipe for any nation’s standard of living.[/quote]
But right now if you have no money, (in America) you get your college for free. Why should there by any under-educated people here? But there still are. Why?
People choose to be uneducated. “It’s too hard.” Too many of these people were trained not to learn, or to hate learning by our terrible education system. We do not learn from our teachers, we learn in spite of them.
All the uneducated morons I have known seem to have one thing in common, they actually believe in far left and socialist ideas.[quote]
orion wrote:
All funded with stolen money.
ElbowStrike wrote:
So are the roads, police, fire, grades 1-12, and the military. What was the point of that comment?
orion wrote:
If that helps even one person that is truly gifted remains questionable, but that it is a giant waste of resources is a given.
ElbowStrike wrote:
Hardly. College graduates climb the corporate ladder faster and become more productive workers and higher earners in the long run than people who entered the work force right out of high school.
The fastest out of those being philosophy and math graduates. The two most apparently “useless” degrees out there.[/quote]
Math useless? Not in the slightest.
Nobody is arguing against education. Why do you think just because somebody doesn’t think education should be free, that it means they are completely against education?
I am for some government support of education. But I also believe people need to pay for at least part of it. When a person works his ass off to pay for an education, that person often loses interest in playing hookey.