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Smolov Jr with Slingshot?


#1

So I just thought of a novel idea...

I ran smolov jr. in the past and couldn't make it past week 1 cause of the pain (shoulders, chest, ect.)

I just recently ordered a slingshot (original) and it should be here any day now. According to the reviews, it really takes away shoulder strain.

What if I were to run a full cycle of smolov jr. using the slingshot every day for all of my working sets?

How should I go about doing it? Test my max in the slingshot and then find my percentages off of that?

Good idea or nah?

CLIFFS:
-OP thinking of doing full cycle of smolov jr in slingshot to reduce pain & stay safe
-go off of raw max or slingshot max for percentages?
-good idea or naw?


#2

Why smolov jr?


#3

[quote]shadowbobo8028 wrote:
I ran smolov jr. in the past and couldn’t make it past week 1 cause of the pain (shoulders, chest, ect.)[/quote]
It would probably be more effective to determine exactly what was causing the pain and specifically address it, rather than Band-Aiding it with a training device and potentially making the underlying issues worse.

I feel like this would make you good at using the Slingshot, and you’d probably be awesome at any Slingshot Bench competitions you enter.

Whether it’ll help your raw bench, no clue. Pretty much only you’d know that, preferably based off previous experience with the Slingshot.


#4

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
Why smolov jr?[/quote]
Cause my bench sucks @$$ compared to my other lifts


#5

[quote]shadowbobo8028 wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
Why smolov jr?[/quote]
Cause my bench sucks @$$ compared to my other lifts[/quote]

I should rephrase.

Why that program versus any other bench program? By your own admission, you tried it and it didn’t work. Rather trying to find ways to fix yourself to adapt to the program, why not instead find a program that works for you?


#6

There is nothing wrong with using a slingshot, or smolov JR (i guess) but I wouldn’t put them together. Separately they are both tools to help your bench. Like Chris said, figure out why you had pain from one week. Maybe im an outlier here but everytime I see someone who has a mediocre bench or squat or whatever their knee jerk reaction is to like squat every day and do smolov. When in reality they just need to learn how to lift correctly.


#7

[quote]shadowbobo8028 wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
Why smolov jr?[/quote]
Cause my bench sucks @$$ compared to my other lifts[/quote]

I’m not sure this answers the question. Why not choose a bench specialisation program that doesn’t give you joint issues? What, specifically is it about Smolov Jnr that makes you think it’s the optimum program to increase your bench? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but your reasoning might give you the answer you’re looking for.

EDIT: The3Pwnisher types quicker than me, so, what he said.


#8

Who is that big, young kid who lifts with Brandon Lilly? Big, big squat? In a past thread he said his shoulder bothered him, so he benched in a Sling-Shot for a year.

He said he was on “The Cube: Kingpin” routine, using the Sling Shot. If I remember correctly, he was really happy with the results.

Hopefully he’ll chime in.


#9

ok sounds good I’ll look for another bench program
in the meantime, which ones do u guys recommend?


#10

I’ve been running the bench program out of Matt Kroc’s “Insane Training” book, and it’s helped me move along my stubborn bench.

It’s similar to the article he posted here, but percentages are slightly different

I also use a reactive slingshot for my assistance work, specifically incline dumbbell bench. I actually like the slingshot way more for DB pressing than barbell.