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Smith Machine press


#1

I know I read many views on this subject, but would like some of your oppinions on this. Are smith machine incline presses better or as effective as incline presses?


#2

There's been a lot of discussion about Smith machines in the past, so make sure to check the search engine.

And what do you mean by "effective"? In building muscle? Strength?


#3

The smith machine has a few good uses but not for regular pressing movements. It's good for ballistic presses with light weights throwing the weight up in the air and catching it......kind've a fun toy in that respect. Also good for calf raises.


#4

In building mass. I know the stregth on the smith is higher, I guess due to the lack of use in the stabilizers


#5

fuck the smith. waste of space in any gym.


#6

hehe, I was gonna say that....


#7

THE ONLY reason I brought this up, is I rember a few years ago reading a program by Larry Scott he was saying do smith machine incline bench presses to the neck for upper chest development.


#8

No one should do any bench or incline presses to the neck. Smith machine or not. Larry Scott or not.


#9

Smith Machines do serve a purpose.....they keep all of the Fitness Bunnies away from MY power rack when I am doing real squats and deads.

It also gives me a place to do shrugs when the Big Boys are borrowing MY power rack.


#10

Iron Maiden - that made me think of a way to kill two birds with one stone. How about we get a "fitness guru" to promote curls in the Smith machine and sell the idea to Men's Health? I know they would look awkward, but if we gave a plausible reason (to them) to perform curls in the Smith machine, then we'd be set.


#11

I thought I've read Poliquin talk about benching to the neck in some of his programs. Granted you couldn't use as much weight, doesn't anyone feel it has some merit?


#12

Let's not demonize the Smith machine.

Like anything else, it's a tool, and it can be perfectly effective at building mass just as easily as the standard lifts. Better, even, if your goals are strictly aesthetic.

DI


#13

Iron Maiden: Good comment :slight_smile:

It is sad but I can't even begin to count the number of misguided people that STILL continue to use the smith machine. If they only knew.........


#14

I use the smith allot especially when I have heavy lifts and no spotter.
Safety first but I like the feel of the smith machine.


#15

ok so I started this let me tell you a story. I was doing legs one day and my partner or ex partner didn't show up, anyways I still trained. Ok so no spot(mind you it was a crappy little gym) so I was doing squats in the smith with about 405. ok so on my third rep I was on the way up and the damn thing moved on pinched my nerve in my back. so I leave and my right leg falls asleep while I am driving home. Next day go to the doctor, little bitty woman and she starts to punch me inthe back, and asks Does this hurt? I told her hell yeah stop punching me in the kiddney. Ok anyway that was the last time I ever did squats in a smith. Arn't thoose things supposed to be anchord?


#16

I've used the smith machine for bulgarian squats (one legged) before, but that is about it


#17

I use the smith machine, for pull-ups. That's it. Working out isn't supposed to be easy or comfortable.


#18

I say all smith machine should be banned from the gym the only thing its good for is if you are doing ballistic benching or reverse crunch on a Swiss Ball nothingelse.


#19

Fitone, I thought you said you were a trainer. That's a bit parochial don't you think?

DI


#20

I used the Smith Machine for calve raises tonight because the other places I normally do them were occupied......there are some uses for it.

I did see someone attempt to do curls on it once though. Guess they thought it worked just like the power rack. I had to really hold back the laughter as I watched him rock back and forth to do the curls.