Im wondering if the involvment of stabilizing muscles is more important than the amount of raw weight on shrugs. I include 2 “mostly” trap excercises in my routine - powerclean from hang and some variation of shrug. the thing is, since youre not bounded by your grip strength, youre able to pull ALOT more weight, i was doing 380lbs for 10 reps instead of 2x 100lbs dumbbells, where my grip gives up in about 10-15sec. (I know that forearm strength is important so I work on grip-str as much as i can).
What do you think is better, raw mass or free weights ?[/quote]
ok firstly,are you not the kid in RMP that was very weak but still had a bruce lee like body that everyone was flaming?
with that in mind I doubt that you could even lift,letalone hold 100 pound dumb bells or lift 380 for anything.
now onto you question because it is a valid question.
my opinion is to use the lighter dumb bells
example if you cant hold 100 pounders go for 60s
reason is because you need to work more on forearm grip and less on traps. so go lighter weight and less reps and slowly work up from there.
when doing other things like back work including rows of any type,shoulder presses,deadlifts,rack pulls ect.
they get alot of indirect work.
and yes your stabalizer muscles are just as if not more important IMO than the direct target muscles.
if you work only the target muscles you may end up with imbalances if you do not also work the others.
free weights are king in that department
and please for the good of this wonderful forum do not make up stories and waste the time of folks here,we need this to be as clutter free and as troll fre as possible.
and BTW I see nowhere in your post where you do shrugs on a calf raise machine.
how would you do that anyway.
you really should use a Barbell or a Dumbell or a shrug machine dont you think?