It is virtually impossible for people on the internet to figure out why you have trouble completing reps early in a set but then have no problem later on. The internet is also not the right place to figure out why your shoulders experience progressively more pain as your chest routine goes on. Instead of people posting a response such as “well it could be any number of things” they have just chosen to ignore it. A qualified doctor is what you need.
You didn’t even say which drugs you were using. Wanting people to skim your post history to figure out what drugs you’ve used is asking too much. Just say what you’re on, it takes 5 seconds.
Has it occured to you to use less weight until the problem heals? Heals or you build the connective tissue strength to handle the loads. You can get your body used to the greater loads by making less dramtic jumps in weight from set to set or from session to session. I am not trying to sound patronizing but that sort of thing is common sense.
I didn’t even look at the timestamp. 5 hours and you complain?? Who are you?[/quote]
lol, you’re right, you didn’t look at the ‘timestamp’ because it was 17 hours, not 5. The amount of time elapsed is irrelevant really, it was more the fact that the thread had over 50 views and only person chose to give input.
Secondly, I don’t know why you chose to focus on the fact that I didn’t mention what I was taking as if THAT was going to be the issue. That is such a stretch. Is there a form of Test that doesn’t raise BP? I realize different compounds have different side effects, but it’s not as if I’m asking about MPH or something along those lines. It’s almost as if you were trying to avoid answering the question just to start an argument- on top of avoiding even reading the post. I already said I’m taking the same gear (from the same place) as I did last time, thus I do not suspect it is a gear issue. It’s just Test E and Dbol.
Furthermore, I ALSO stated in my post that I do 2-3 warm up sets on bench before hitting my working sets. You wouldn’t have come off as patronizing if you actually took the time to read that, because I suspect you wouldn’t have even said anything about that then.
I also said I had taken two days off from any workouts that involve my arms. Seriously, there is no way you could have even read my post beyond the first line.
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ONE response? Unbelievable.
Dude - it hasn’t been that long. Give it a day…
I’m no expert but I will just share what I do. I have to be careful with my shoulders. I had a rotator cuff injury once that put me out of commission for about 2 or 3 months because I didn’t take care of it. I ended up having to stop working out my upper body completely for a period of time and only do ‘no load’ exercises to keep the range of motion.
I know that you are on cycle right now and you want to maximize your gains but really but I would NEVER ignore a shoulder injury again.
Here are some thoughts - I take fish oil as KSMan suggested - I take it everyday. I used to take flax seed oil for the same purpose - to ‘lubricate’ the joints. I also take glucosamine/chondroitin regularly also for joint health. knock on wood I haven’t had any problems since and I put A LOT of stress on my shoulders in my chest (and of course) shoulder days (and even bicep and tricep days - I know this because when I had my injury I realized that almost every upper body exercise used my shoulders to some degree). My key seems to be the choice of exercises that I do - I tend to stick to the ‘natural grip’ exercises where possible. I also incorporate a lot of rotator cuff exercises with high reps and low weight which seems to help. Lastly, I focus on good form especially when my shoulders are involved in any way being careful not to overextend. For example, I see guys at the gym that do the pec deck and set the arms super far back. I know that it’s important to stretch etc. but the first thing I do is reset them to no further back than 180 degrees. Sometimes I will even set them a few degrees in the positive direction but that’s just me…
I guess what I’m trying to say is you can continue to go heavy and gain on your cycle, but try to give your shoulders a break and whatever you do, don’t ignore an injury.
I’ve been taking fish oil and I may start taking glucosamine while on this cycle. I did my shoulder workout tonight, and it wasn’t nearly as painful as I thought it would be. My chest and triceps exercises are much more strenuous.
I know when I first started lifting I didn’t pay close enough attention to what I was doing with my shoulders (your pec deck example would’ve been me in my younger days) but I changed that awhile ago and it really seemed to help alleviate some of the problems I had. I only recently started doing more rotator cuff exercises when my chiropractor thought they might help. I’ve seen a chiro. semi-regularly for the last few years and it always seemed to help…temporarily.
My right shoulder seems to slump down and forward a little- and they need to reset it like every two-three weeks usually. The problem is that the shoulder could be slumping from a completely different reason like something going on in my back.
I have a great chiropractor which typically keeps me from seeing a doctor. I’ve seen so many people go in for shoulder/neck/back issues to a doctor and they end up having surgery or an operation for something totally minor. It blows my mind. So that’s why I’m hesitant to see a doctor about something like this.
I’ve had x-rays done of my shoulder in May, but they were ‘inconclusive’.