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Shoulder pressing necessary during

Is a shoulder/overhead pressing movement necessary during the “push” day after all the chest pressing exercises?

I do a push/pull/legs 2x a week (de-load every 4 weeks).

Here’s my routine:

Push A

Bench Press 3x4-8
Low-incline Dumbbell Press 3x6-10
Low-to-high Cable Flyes 2x8-12
Overhead Press 3x6-10
Lateral Raises 2x8-12
Dips 3x6-10
PJR Pullovers 2x-8-12

Push B

Incline Bench Press 3x4-8
Flat Dumbbell Press 3x6-10
Low-incline Dumbbell Flyes 2x8-12
Dumbbell Shoulder Press 3x6-10
Cable Lateral Raises 2x8-12
Skullcrushers 3x6-10
One-arm Overhead Extensions 2x8-12

I’m thinking it may be better to eliminate overhead barbell and dumbbell shoulder pressing altogether in favor of 3 sets of lateral raises. What shoulder exercises would be optimal in this situation?

What kind of shoulder work have you incorporated into your workout when doing push/pull/legs? Just trying to get an idea of what’s worked for people here in the past.

It depends on who you ask. Some guys feel the OHP is necessary, others (namely Shelby Starnes) don’t feel the OHP is an integral part of a training program.

The best thing to do is run a program with and without and gauge which one is working best for you.

I’ve incorporated landmine presses which have been talked about at length in articles and forums here. They are a little easier on my shoulders, but still allow me to include shoulder pressing into my workout.

OHP varations have helped with development for me, but when I do them AFTER side and rear delt work. It opens up your AC joint so that you’re recruiting the entire shoulder more and not just pressing with front delts, which can often happen when you jump straight into shoulders from chest work.

i do the incline press. it hits front delts almost as well as overhead and it has much more room in the shoulder joint so nothing gets irritated.
i keep hearing about how great the OH press is but i have heard of few people that can do it with confidence that they wont be in pain. if you spend more time warming up than lifting then something is wrong.

i do alot of lateral raises. why do you think you have to do three sets. dont get so obsessed with numbers and scheduling, the party should be more fun than the planning, not the other way around. i started putting on muscle when i relaxed and went by feel and stopped trying to force myself into a strict number of sets and reps where every set had to mean something and lead to something.

also dumbbell flies have a minuscule effective range of motion, are you working out at home or something? use the cables

to be honest i did not read your post very thoroughly