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Shoulder Pain - Chondroitin?

After heavy chest workouts my shoulders absolutely kill me. I’m thinking it might be a problem with the cartilage - OA?

Is there a possibility here? Should I start on Glucosamine and Chondroitin? I’m only 20.

I get shoulder pain too. It probably is not a cartilage issue. Some possible reasons could be that you are doing exercises your body does not like, your form (you may flare your elbows, for instance), or the weight may just be too damn heavy at the present time.

You should be careful with spending money on G/C supplements. The evidence for its efficacy is unclear.

Try it works great for some not so great for others, Get one with MSM as well. Get your EFA’a Fish OIL!! and Id suggest Prehab work for your shoulders even more.

Check out the Shoulder Savers series BY EC and MR

Phill

In before rotar cuff injury.

EDIT: All jokes aside how are you sure it is not a soft tissue injury just as tendonitis or a rotar cuff screw up?

Chondroiten works for me pretty well. it takes a few weeks of continuous use to feel the effect though.

how is your stretching? i’ve found that doing more shoulder and tricep stretches really eases shoulder pain. you could just have a tight shoulder.

[quote]Phill wrote:
Try it works great for some not so great for others, Get one with MSM as well. Get your EFA’a Fish OIL!! and Id suggest Prehab work for your shoulders even more.

Check out the Shoulder Savers series BY EC and MR

Phill[/quote]

YES

usually it takes 8 weeks too see full effects of glucosamine/chondroitin supplementation. the msm is excellent, as are hyaluronic acid (200mg/day) and a product by NOW called Bone Strength.

definately 20+g of fish oil, lots of fruits and veggies and animal protein. make sure your fats are balanced: 25-33% saturated, 33-50% monounsaturated, 25-33% polyunsaturated - spilt relatively evenly between omega3 and omega6; and don’t take in any fast digesting carbs outside the training/postworkout window to minimize inflamation.

in addition to the cressey/robertson stuff, check out this Ian King article from his Out of Kilter series about dealing with shoulder pain:

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459716

[quote]meangenes wrote:
After heavy chest workouts my shoulders absolutely kill me. I’m thinking it might be a problem with the cartilage [/quote]

There are guys out there who, due to shoulder issues, can’t bench. My shoulders are great - EXCEPT when I bench. So I don’t bench and haven’t benched for years.

Yeah, I use glucosamine, chondroitin, and butt loads of Flameout and it really helps my joints feel much better on a daily basis.

To echo what others have said, it takes a couple of weeks for you to really feel it.

Yea so today I actually worked through the pain and it stopped. Good or bad, they feel awesome even after my session. I also found that I had a better chest workout because I pretty much worked my arms to failure. Then my chest needed to do the work for the rest of the session. I never thought of this before.

There’s a possibility that training through it until the pain stops is a bad idea but what else can I do? And nah, I didn’t start on the Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM/Flameout yet.

[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
meangenes wrote:
After heavy chest workouts my shoulders absolutely kill me. I’m thinking it might be a problem with the cartilage

There are guys out there who, due to shoulder issues, can’t bench. My shoulders are great - EXCEPT when I bench. So I don’t bench and haven’t benched for years. [/quote]

      Hey Cal, I hear you on that. What do you do for chest then though?
       curious as I have similar issues w/ shoulders...
         ToneBone

There is an injury called bench press shoulder I had this on right side and now am having problems on left surgery is iminent they cut the end of the clavicle off. and scar tissue fills the joint greta procedure was back in gym benching within six weeks. Due to tearing all the supporting ligaments at the ac joint what happens is the clavicle rubs the joint.

I could not even throw a baseball. Cortisone injections work for short time but now I need surgery on other side too. Caused from going passed 90 on the bench.

Use dumbbells over barbell if the former does not cause the pain.

Hey big nasty … i had the same problem. I am only 16 years old and last year i started getting really bad shoulder pain. To a point where i would have to skip a bench workout once in a while. Then last fall in football i seperated my shoulder.

i had to get surgery because it wouldnt repair on its owne … cortozine would work for about a weeek. I finaly had surgery on it … it was close to 4 months ago …my body had an alergic reaction to the vicro stitches so that set me back for a little while… my shoulder still hurts, i cannot bench on it …

i cant do direct shoulder work … I went back and seen my suergon he said its jus going to take time … although the average rate of time for recovery for that surgery is about 2 months… it has been 4 months for me. I am going to a different city to see a different specialist to get another opinion… idk maybe the doc messed up ?

  but ive started back training ... with no bench or chest work. i have a fear that ill never be able to bench again