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Shoulder Exercise Form Confusion

Ok guys, heres my problem. I LOVE training shoulders, I above and beyond all else. However, I have heard so much conflicting advice about pretty much every shoulder exercise there is, especially for lateral raises (Twist the dumbbell/dont twist the dumbbell, bent arms, straight arms etc.) and Barbell shoulder press (elbows flared, elbows in front etc.).

Now even though I have been training for a couple of years I am a relative newbie compared to many here, so hit me with some advice please, best form for the key shoulder exercises?

IMO…

O.H. Press w/Bar or Machine = Elbows In
O.H. Press w/D.Bell = Elbows Out

Side Lateral Raise = Pinkie higher than thumb and elbow higher than shoulder at finish

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
IMO…

O.H. Press w/Bar or Machine = Elbows In
O.H. Press w/D.Bell = Elbows Out

Side Lateral Raise = Pinkie higher than thumb and elbow higher than shoulder at finish
[/quote]

Why? I’m truly interested.

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
IMO…

O.H. Press w/Bar or Machine = Elbows In
O.H. Press w/D.Bell = Elbows Out

Side Lateral Raise = Pinkie higher than thumb and elbow higher than shoulder at finish
[/quote]

Why? I’m truly interested.[/quote]

because its his opinion :slight_smile:

na but seriously, for the majority i would agree. For me, on barbell presses i cant get good drive if i flare out but on db press where you start already flared and then go straight up from there really isolates the delts and you can use partials to take out the tri’s at the top. When doing an arnold press or neutral grip press you dont have a choice but to start tucked so thats kinda dictated by the movement i guess.

Lateral raise advice is pretty standard i think in terms of trying to isolate the medial delt.

actually, its better to say elbow higher than hand, because ive seen too much people trying to rotate their forearms while still having their humeri externally rotated…other rule of thumb should be shoulders tucked.