I don't know if this has been discussed but what do you think is optimal for gaining shoulder mass and strenght?
If I look at programs available on t-mag, I can see the ABBH program wich discourage direct shoulder work and OVT who devotes one entire day to delts. And I think westside work shoulders with different kinds of raises complex.
So what do you think?
don't work delts directly?
train them a lot or just a bit?
We could have the same discussion with arms...