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Shock and Awe - Personal Trainers

This is actually not an attack on personal trainers.

Recently I have had several people at the Golds gym I attend ask me for advice/tips for front squats, back squats, and olympic lifts, as I am one of the few people there that do them constantly.

One of the trainers saw me helping someone on cleans, and came over after we were finished. I expected to get yelled at for teaching such a “dangerous” lift. Much to my surprise, he merely complimented me on taking the time to help people, and asked if I would be willing to teach him how to clean and snatch. I have even seen him deadlift before.

[quote]daven wrote:
This is actually not an attack on personal trainers.

Recently I have had several people at the Golds gym I attend ask me for advice/tips for front squats, back squats, and olympic lifts, as I am one of the few people there that do them constantly.

One of the trainers saw me helping someone on cleans, and came over after we were finished. I expected to get yelled at for teaching such a “dangerous” lift. Much to my surprise, he merely complimented me on taking the time to help people, and asked if I would be willing to teach him how to clean and snatch. I have even seen him deadlift before.[/quote]

No way! A personal trainer that doesn’t think they are God’s gift to exercise? One that actually deadlifts? One that actually wants to learn the O-lifts? What world did you step into? I need to visit there!

Jesus. I might just drive those extra 10 minutes to the Gold’s gym instead of my current one.

Yeah, Snatches, Front Squats and Cleans are OK, I guess but the pec-deck will define your chest if you do enough reps and try to make a mind-muscle connection… you know feeeeeel the muscle.

Well, I’m off to Squat/Bench/PowerClean ala Bill Starr. (in other words; I’m going to work my ass off and get bigger and stronger)

Good work man, Maybe this will start an epidemic of BACK TO BASICS at your gym but then again…

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No way! A personal trainer that doesn’t think they are God’s gift to exercise? One that actually deadlifts? One that actually wants to learn the O-lifts? What world did you step into? I need to visit there![/quote]

I know it’s hard to believe, but some of us do suggest such lifts to clients. Some actually seek out new information and techniques to teach our clients. Not all trainers go for the “upside down, reverse grip hammer curls while doing a headstand on a fitball” training!

[quote]danmaftei wrote:
Jesus. I might just drive those extra 10 minutes to the Gold’s gym instead of my current one.[/quote]

Be careful. Not all Gold’s have open minded trainers, and like any chain gym, they can each have dramatic differences from each other.

I found that the Gold’s in Virginia Beach was very good. Many others here have all kinds of horror stories about Gold’s.

I have been personal training for over 13 years. Believe it or not I do have my clients squat, deadlift(various types), bench, olympic lifting, as well as glute/ham. I agree with most of what is written about personal trainers in general. That is why I built my own home gym so I don’t have to see these “experts” telling their clients the pec deck will give them striations in their chest. I am a firm believer in multi-joint, CKC exercises versus single joint OKC exercises. I just felt like I had to stand up for us trainers that acutally do know what we’re doing and help our clientele become better athletes.

[quote]MarkN3 wrote:
I have been personal training for over 13 years. Believe it or not I do have my clients squat, deadlift(various types), bench, olympic lifting, as well as glute/ham. I agree with most of what is written about personal trainers in general. That is why I built my own home gym so I don’t have to see these “experts” telling their clients the pec deck will give them striations in their chest. I am a firm believer in multi-joint, CKC exercises versus single joint OKC exercises. I just felt like I had to stand up for us trainers that acutally do know what we’re doing and help our clientele become better athletes.[/quote]

Ditto.

Markn3 ditto for me too!

Ah, triple ditto. Is that like a tritto? I think it’s our responsibility to educate ourselves, be objective in our programming and to work towards a positive image in the eyes of clients, other members and people in this industry.

Even when the other personal trainer says you squat too deep.

The P trainers that tend to teach the bone head way to work out tend to throw around their education use big words and even use fancy tests to explain why the trainie needs to spend 135 an hour to be trained using the toy dumbells, peckdeck and the ab machines. The funny thing is the big gyms high these trainers because the memember will spend more money at the gym. Even though even after 6 mo. the trainie looks the same does the same thing but still pays the bone heads…

The first words coming out of their mouth is “I dont want you to lose weight but increase your MAX VO2 so while you are resting you burn more calaries and when you train you get to the fat burning quicker” Now after my wife did this she does not listen to me and even though I have been a trainer since '96 while in the Marine Corps, real world gym trainer, and actualy look like I know what I am doing.

Enough of my ranting…