Al, recovery has been my biggest problem also. I have made some of the best gains of my life in the past year and a half since returning to training. I am coming back from a 14 year layoff! I started out in June of 01 at 175lbs, about 20% bodyfat. Today I am at 235, 12% bodyfat. I have used no “drugs” to achieve these results, just hard training and Biotest supplements like Androsol (I sure wish it were available ) Tribex, and Mag-10. As for recovery, I am also trying the cold/hot therapy and stretching. I have discovered that it is essential to devote ample time to your warm-up. Mine begins at home with a hot shower 20 minutes prior to training, then I stretch. I am starting the routine outlined in the Senior T-Man column this week. I have been training on a two on, one off, two on two off split. Gains have slowed, and my recuperation is slowing down. I have also had a few nagging injuries as of late, most notabily in my right rotator cuff. I think the reduced volume and frequency of training as outlined in the article might be exactly what my body needs right now. I will keep you posted on my progress. Thanks to Arley, TC and the crew at T-mag. Rage On !