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Self Injections Are Great!

I began injecting today, 300 mg Test Cyp every 2 weeks (legally). Put it into my right thigh.

This is so easy and utterly painless, I’m pissed I didn’t do it earlier.

Screw the gels, patches, and all that stuff! Just do it yourself, its easy!!

HH

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I began injecting today, 300 mg Test Cyp every 2 weeks (legally). Put it into my right thigh.

This is so easy and utterly painless, I’m pissed I didn’t do it earlier.

Screw the gels, patches, and all that stuff! Just do it yourself, its easy!!

HH[/quote]

Since you’re doing it yourself do you plan on following a higher frequency injection protocol to minimize estradiol and blood level fluctuations? Perhaps twice a week?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I began injecting today, 300 mg Test Cyp every 2 weeks (legally). Put it into my right thigh.

This is so easy and utterly painless, I’m pissed I didn’t do it earlier.

Screw the gels, patches, and all that stuff! Just do it yourself, its easy!!

HH[/quote]

I’ve gone through the cream/gel mill too. And the stuff is worthless for me. It actually lowered my levels in a 4 month time frame even after a dosage increase. Reluctantly the doc finally gave me injectibles I wonder how the pellet would be, but until then it’s injections.

[quote]Mike Sullivan wrote:
What gauge and length are you using for the thigh? I prefer the glutes but may switch to the thigh as I have a bit of difficulty with flexibility shooting in the glutes.[/quote]

1.5 inches, 21 gauge. Piece of cake.

[quote]Bri Hildebrandt wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I began injecting today, 300 mg Test Cyp every 2 weeks (legally). Put it into my right thigh.

This is so easy and utterly painless, I’m pissed I didn’t do it earlier.

Screw the gels, patches, and all that stuff! Just do it yourself, its easy!!

HH

Since you’re doing it yourself do you plan on following a higher frequency injection protocol to minimize estradiol and blood level fluctuations? Perhaps twice a week?[/quote]

Since Cyp has a half-life of about 8 days, I’ll stay with the once/two weeks. But…

Would 150 every week be better, IYO?

HH

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I began injecting today, 300 mg Test Cyp every 2 weeks (legally). Put it into my right thigh.

This is so easy and utterly painless, I’m pissed I didn’t do it earlier.

Screw the gels, patches, and all that stuff! Just do it yourself, its easy!!

HH[/quote]

just started the same thing 7 days ago how long before you felt something?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Mike Sullivan wrote:
What gauge and length are you using for the thigh? I prefer the glutes but may switch to the thigh as I have a bit of difficulty with flexibility shooting in the glutes.

1.5 inches, 21 gauge. Piece of cake.

[/quote]

holy shheeeeeiiitttt, 21 gauge!!! thats huge. i wouldn’t even use 21’s for glutes. you could get away with using 1" 25 gauge for your quads…much less pain/discomfort…less scar tissue buildup.

Yep, injections are the way to go. I recently switched over from gels to self inject.

I had problems with doing a 2 week protocol, the drop off caused problems, so I inject weekly at 1cc/200mg cyp.

I also use the 25 guage, it injects slow but that’s what you want to do anyways. And there’s very little discomfort at this guage. I use a 1.5" needle but only go in 1" in the quads.

Im new to this so a simple question.

what is this = 300 mg Test Cyp ?

what does it do?

I’ve been into sups for 5 months and wow what changes in my bod. Is this the next level of sups to go to?

NO, cratine, natural test boosters, just discovered legal gear Speed.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Bri Hildebrandt wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I began injecting today, 300 mg Test Cyp every 2 weeks (legally). Put it into my right thigh.

This is so easy and utterly painless, I’m pissed I didn’t do it earlier.

Screw the gels, patches, and all that stuff! Just do it yourself, its easy!!

HH

Since you’re doing it yourself do you plan on following a higher frequency injection protocol to minimize estradiol and blood level fluctuations? Perhaps twice a week?

Since Cyp has a half-life of about 8 days, I’ll stay with the once/two weeks. But…

Would 150 every week be better, IYO?

HH

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It seems to be the way TRT is going. Dr.'s John Crisler and Michael Scally, two of the leading specialists in the field are leaning towards twice a week injections and HCG the day before, strictly for the reasons I outlined above.

If you don’t have problems with keeping estradiol down you could use a once a week protocol due to convenience, but I wouldn’t go any longer. Ideal would be 75mg twice a week with your prescription.

The higher your blood levels get the more is aromitized to estradiol which isn’t something you want. You’re basically wasting your test to a degree and causing more side effects. There’s a greater chance of sexual dysfunction with dosing every two weeks as well due to high estradiol levels and low T the week before an injection.

I’ll PM you a site that specifically deals with TRT issues. It’s probably the best resource on the net dealing with men’s TRT/HRT with articles, and a forum discussing trouble shooting, theory, etc…

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Bri,

Please post that site, or PM me as well. Thanks.

[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
Bri,

Please post that site, or PM me as well. Thanks.[/quote]

Yes, please post or pm. That sounds like a good resource. Thanks

Here it is since so many people seem to be asking for it.

forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Bri Hildebrandt wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Bri Hildebrandt wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I began injecting today, 300 mg Test Cyp every 2 weeks (legally). Put it into my right thigh.

This is so easy and utterly painless, I’m pissed I didn’t do it earlier.

Screw the gels, patches, and all that stuff! Just do it yourself, its easy!!

HH

Since you’re doing it yourself do you plan on following a higher frequency injection protocol to minimize estradiol and blood level fluctuations? Perhaps twice a week?

Since Cyp has a half-life of about 8 days, I’ll stay with the once/two weeks. But…

Would 150 every week be better, IYO?

HH

It seems to be the way TRT is going. Dr.'s John Crisler and Michael Scally, two of the leading specialists in the field are leaning towards twice a week injections and HCG the day before, strictly for the reasons I outlined above.

If you don’t have problems with keeping estradiol down you could use a once a week protocol due to convenience, but I wouldn’t go any longer. Ideal would be 75mg twice a week with your prescription.

The higher your blood levels get the more is aromitized to estradiol which isn’t something you want. You’re basically wasting your test to a degree and causing more side effects. There’s a greater chance of sexual dysfunction with dosing every two weeks as well due to high estradiol levels and low T the week before an injection.

I’ll PM you a site that specifically deals with TRT issues. It’s probably the best resource on the net dealing with men’s TRT/HRT with articles, and a forum discussing trouble shooting, theory, etc…

Could you please PM me the site too. I’d like to examine their reasoning behind the HCG use. Testicular atrophy I suppose, but why just prior to the test shot?[/quote]

Bushy,

For testicular atrophy as well as increased testosterone if the person is secondary. Even with primaries it will increase test slighty since it’s all a grey area anyways.

The day before the injection is mainly since the blood levels of T are lowest at that time. Dosages are kept under 500IU to minimize estradiol and desensitization. Since testosterone is lowest at that point anyways it is possible the hypothalamus may be more sensitive to the effects of HCG.

It’s a good way to keep things in homeostasis for people on TRT or never ending supraphysiological “cycles”. I know you’re pretty experienced with this stuff after reading many of your posts. I don’t want to tell you stuff you may already know. :slight_smile:

Bri,

That link is absolutely amazing. Its what I’ve been looking for, for almost 2 years now. Much more helpful then the slew of dumbass fucktard doctors, who dont really give a shit about you, that Ive been too.

Much appreciated.

[quote]juice20jd wrote:

holy shheeeeeiiitttt, 21 gauge!!! thats huge. i wouldn’t even use 21’s for glutes. you could get away with using 1" 25 gauge for your quads…much less pain/discomfort…less scar tissue buildup.
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The needle DOES look like a ‘firehose’ in needle-world, that’s for sure. :slight_smile:

Its funny, but I don’t feel any pain from injections. I was also amazed at how easily the needle goes in, thought I’d have to jam it down. The needle slides right in, no pain at all.

An IV or giving blood however…hurts like a MOFO!!

HH