Second Cycle: Time to Bulk!

Pharma / TRT
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Whats up Nation!

My background: 21, 225 and 10% BF with 1 (lengthy) cycle under my belt. Started as a simple Test E @ 500mg/week, and then i decided to do a show, so it turned into a (Put away your pitchforks and torches) 20 week 350mg/week Test Prop cycle with a little bit of winny and var thrown in towards the end. Ended up placing 3rd and was the heaviest at the show. Came off and did a long pct, and I’m finally feeling back to normal (or whatever you call it).

Best Lifts: 370 bench, 560 deadlift, 480 squat

The plan: Im planning ahead so i can get my funds and order together for September. Diet will be at least 1000cal above maintenance and at least 1.5 grams of protein/lb of bodyweight. DC training religiously. Here’s what i have so far:

Weeks 1-10: Sust @ 250mg EOD (875mg/week)
Weeks 1-8: NPP @ 100mg EOD (350mg/week)
Weeks 1-10: HCG @ 250iu 3x/week
Weeks 1-8: Caber @ .5mg E3D
weeks 1-10: Adex (as needed)

PCT:
Clomid 150/100/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

So, here come the inquiries:

  1. HCG: should i run it all the way through week 10, or stop sooner?
  2. When should i start PCT? Most sust blends have Test deca in it, so should i do the standard and wait 2 weeks after my last injection?
  3. Is the caber dosage solid?
  4. Is it a good idea to start the NPP at the same time as the sust? And could i get away with running it through week 10?

I probably missed something, but i can’t really remember.

Anyway, have at it. Gimme any and all feedback

Stay Strong,
VF

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looks awsome. dont use hcg so i cant help u there. id wait 2 weeks fr the test to clear. caber lookd good but just like adex adjust as needed decca dick is no joke lol. i dont see y u cant start the decca with the sust, sust has short esters so u should be fine. a friend of mine did a similar cycle with test E and nandrolone deconate instead of npp and got absolutely massive bust of luck

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Thanks beefcakes. Appreciate the response.

Bump for some HCG info

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[quote]veraforza17 wrote:
Whats up Nation!

My background: 21, 225 and 10% BF with 1 (lengthy) cycle under my belt. Started as a simple Test E @ 500mg/week, and then i decided to do a show, so it turned into a (Put away your pitchforks and torches) 20 week 350mg/week Test Prop cycle with a little bit of winny and var thrown in towards the end. Ended up placing 3rd and was the heaviest at the show. Came off and did a long pct, and I’m finally feeling back to normal (or whatever you call it).

Best Lifts: 370 bench, 560 deadlift, 480 squat

The plan: Im planning ahead so i can get my funds and order together for September. Diet will be at least 1000cal above maintenance and at least 1.5 grams of protein/lb of bodyweight. DC training religiously. Here’s what i have so far:

Weeks 1-10: Sust @ 250mg EOD (875mg/week)
Weeks 1-8: NPP @ 100mg EOD (350mg/week)
Weeks 1-10: HCG @ 250iu 3x/week
Weeks 1-8: Caber @ .5mg E3D
weeks 1-10: Adex (as needed)

PCT:
Clomid 150/100/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

So, here come the inquiries:

  1. HCG: should i run it all the way through week 10, or stop sooner?
  2. When should i start PCT? Most sust blends have Test deca in it, so should i do the standard and wait 2 weeks after my last injection?
  3. Is the caber dosage solid?
  4. Is it a good idea to start the NPP at the same time as the sust? And could i get away with running it through week 10?

I probably missed something, but i can’t really remember.

Anyway, have at it. Gimme any and all feedback

Stay Strong,
VF
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I would seriously consider adding dianabol to that cycle. And upping your protein intake to a minimum 2g per pound.

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Run HCG at the doses you listed until about 5 days before you begin PCT.

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Thanks VT, i was hoping to hear from you. Appreciate it.

AHA! THAT’S what i forgot to say! I wanted to get opinions on using an oral kickstart. Maybe var, or (as Massiveguns suggested) dbol. Any opinions?

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if ur bulking dbol over var without a doubt. its not nececerally needed as a kicker cus ur using two short esterd that will be felt in the first week or 2 but definatley a nice addition to the stack

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Right right i was thinking the same thing about the 2 short esters. I knew i didnt necessarily NEED them, but its not like it would hurt anything. The only reason i was thinking var over dbol was cause if the aromitization from the dbol. I’ve had some trouble with gyno in the past and didnt really wanna chance it.

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what about superdrol? im only saying this cuz var is especially known for performance increases without any aditional mass good if ur a sprinter or wrestler bad if ur a bodybuilder trying to bulk. we all know what its like to deal with shady dealers lol so when it comes to orals its really just what u have acess to. maybee tbol would be a good option too but again its hard to find.

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Superdrol can suck my balls. Haha its caused me gyno flare-ups like no other. I was actually considering tbol. I can basically get ahold of anyhing. I just haven’t really heard much info on it. It seems to be one of the less-researched compounds out there. Any experience?