[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
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[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-seattle-terror-plot,0,5736498.story
A Los Angeles man is one of two suspects accused in a plot to use machine guns and grenades in an attack on a military recruiting station in Seattle that also houses a daycare, the U.S. Justice Department said Thursday.[/quote]
Abdul-Latif & Walli Mujahidh…but let’s not discuss their faith, because it would be wrong.[/quote]
No, it wouldn’t.
It would be wrong to say “look, all Muslims are terrorists.” Not wrong in the moralistic, PC way–wrong in the “not correct” kind of way.[/quote]
Saying Islam is bad and saying all Muslims are terrorists are 2 different things.
If Islam leads only 1% of it’s people to try to carry off or support terror attacks, it can make it justified to say that the religion is bad. It does not take majority or even a large percentage to make something bad.
If one Christian in a thousand killed a thousand non-believers, Christianity would be bad. Even though the number of bad Christians would only be .1%.
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Religion provides a platform from which the iniquitous can do harm. So does government, race, gender, wealth, and just about everything else. It isn’t as simple as you people like to make believe.
Islam has driven men to kill. So has Christianity. So has Buddhism. So have sex, love, boredom, greed, ethnocentrism, stupidity. Your numbers and percentages are arbitrary and therefore meaningless. What exactly is the point? If bad people are Muslims then to be Muslim is to be a bad person? Exactly how many bad guys taint the religion to a sufficient extent as to render it “bad”–ten percent? Eight? A single one? And as long as a single Muslim terrorist exists, is Islam truly and universally bad? And if this is so, are not all religions truly and universally bad? And do you believe that Islam cannot, depending upon the bent of the interpreter, engender anything other than hatred violent rebellion? Has Christianity not, on occasion, done just that as well?
It’s all just nonsense, a spurious caricature of reality created to ease the head-splitting complexity of real life.[/quote]
I never said it was simple. I only noted your assumptions in your first post were wrong.
“If bad people are Muslims then to be Muslim is to be a bad person?” - another poorly reasoned sentence.
If you are going to disagree with the argument at hand, then do it. The majority of Muslims being good doesn’t hold water. It does not show that Islam is good.
Notice I never argued one way or another about any religion being bad. I was only attempting to direct you to the actual argument.
What percent of people are bad to make a religion bad is very subjective. But when I see a pattern of violence and despicable murder largely correlated to one specific religion it makes me wonder.
Christians and Buddhists don’t follow that trend.
I personally am a little split on how I feel about Islam. Part of me sees it as much a problem with the middle ages culture of the middle east as with the religion itself.