thanks a lot for the quick replies and sorry for my absence
rocca — unfortunately I’ve no one to take my pictures so it wont be possible ad them, the same thing is with examination of my posture and any of the muscle weaknesses that you’ve described
I would really like to know how to do a self examination for all of these muscle weaknesses - if you know any I would really love to know how to do them - maybe you could give me some names of tests tests or links, that would be great
for now I just know that my scapulae are winging during pushups - and on the right side it feels like therre’s nothig holding it to the ribcage
as for the physio - I would give a world for a good physio opinion but I live in a shithole and a specialist like that is very hard to come by
olifter1 — luckily I don’t feel much of a pain, just a stiffness in the neck (specially in the right side) and really big discomfort, specially in the right side - my scaps are not only pressing against any chair I sit but they really feel loose like hell
It’s kind a weird thing specially with the pushups because when I lower myself to the floor I feel my right blade rubbing against the ribcage, and in the top position it feels as its going to detach itself from the ribcage
and the most irritating thing about it is that the pushups are suppose to help with the winging but when doing them I’m not able to keep my blades on the ribcage - and I’ve tried almost every had placement I could imagime (from close grip with my palms directly under my nipples and elbows pressed to the torso - to the wide hand placement with my palms wider than the shoulders and above the face level— I’ve also tried placing my palsm inward with my fingers pointing each other — and also with my palms outward like you would keep your hands on the swiss ball) every time it’s the same
also I feel that when I’m doing normal pushups with my fingers straight forward I just cant keep my right side/blade/scapula from shrugging towards my head and (and boy how tense my neck and upper traps feel after these kind of pushups) - and when I place my palms outwards or even backwards (like with a reverse grip during reverse grip bench press) I feel that my scapula is travelling more along the side of my ribcage and not shrugging towards my head
after reading all these articles I don’t know what should and what should not happen during pushups, for example, should I do pushup just to the point when I feel I’m not winging yet or should press myself as far as I can from the floor and not care about houw bad I wing during the press ?
LevelHeaded — I know I’m over analysing it but Its like that now, a few months back I was just doing exactly what I’ve found about winging (i.e. exercises and the whole programs) just copying without thinking
but when after coulpe of months everything stayed the same or even got worse I’ve started to analyse
I’m trying to see the big picture here and I really want to do all the main, big exercises like the deadlift, military press, bent over row etc. but every time I try to do them I feel that things are getting worse
but I might have noticed some ting interesting - namely the reverse grip - and not only with the bench but also with the row, deadlift and the military press
the reverse grip seems to help me retract my blades better i.e.
when I deadlift with underhand grip I seam to shrug a lot les and push my chest forward a lot easier - wher I row with underhand grip I row to the bottot of the stomach and not end up with a semi shrug position on to.
when I press overhead with the undergrip It looks like a scaption with a barbell - with the reverse grip bench press the blade seam to travel along the sides just like with the palms outwards/backwards pushups
What do you think about that, about doing everyting with a reverse grip ? I have to try a pullover with a reverse grip
and about the reverse grip benchpress - is it working JUST the upper pecs or lower part /sternal/ aswell ?
thanks again for all you help and advice