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SARM with Low Test Levels?

#1

I’m 29, have been lifting since i was 16. Never tried anything and wanted to give something a shot to give myself a little edge in the gym. Was thinking about trying a sarm like ostarine to work through some injuries and put on some lean body mass.

However, I got some blood tests done and my testosterone seemed pretty low. While all tests including CBC, Lipid profile, test, and tsh were all normal, my total test was 421 (264-916) and free test was 10 (9.3-26.5) also my tsh was pretty low at .472 (.450-4.5) My cholesterol was skewed because i had taken a separate lipid profile and stupidly ate a few hours before so my doc said it was normal.

Do you think any kind of sarm is a bad idea with low test numbers? or what can I do to improve my numbers if they aren’t out of technical range but seem low from a bodybuilding standpoint…

#2

The only thing a SARM will do is suppress your testosterone and make your numbers worse. You’re not low low, but you’re also not at an optimal number for what you want. If you want better numbers “from a bodybuilding standpoint” then the answer is to run some test. I don’t know if monotherapies of HCG or Clomid are useful at your level—since it’s not very low—but you may want to look into that as well. I don’t know enough about those particular protocols so I wouldn’t give advice. But your answer is probably to run test. It’s kind of the answer most guys (in this world) eventually come to when they want higher testosterone levels and muscle growth.

#3

Go to the Testosterone Replacement forum and start a thread there with a title you can live with for your case.

Should be trying to find out cause of lower T levels and then deal with root cause. Low-T at your age is the symptom, not the disease.

In that new thread, not here, post:

  • all lab work with ranges, not just things you think matter and the suspect cholesterol data as well
  • lab data in list format, not in prose
  • timeline for when you think low-T started and significant preceding events like blows to the head

Thyroid: Please see below re “oral body temperatures” and post those. Also describe your history of using iodized salt - needed to support thyroid hormone production.

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Evaluate your overall thyroid function by checking oral body temperatures as per the thyroid basics sticky. Thyroid hormone fT3 is what gets the job done and it regulates mitochondrial activity, the source of ATP which is the universal currency of cellular energy. This is part of the body’s temperature control loop. This can get messed up if you are iodine deficient. In many countries, you need to be using iodized salt. Other countries add iodine to dairy or bread.

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I can be a bit abrupt in my replies and recommendations. I have a lot of ground to cover as this forum has become much more active in the last two years. I can’t follow threads that go deep over time. You need to respond to all of my points and requests as soon as possible before you fall off of my radar. The worse problems are guys who ignore issues re Thyroid, body temperatures, history of iodized salt. Please do not piss people off saying that lab results are normal, we need lab number Aand ranges.

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