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Safety of Tren vs Orals


#1

Just curious what some of the vets here think. It is often recommended that beginners avoid tren, yet some orals (i.e... var, dbol, winnie) are frequently used alongside test in a first cycle.
I am a (steroid) beginner, currently on a first cycle of very low test (200 PW), and NPP at 120 EOD. Doing pretty well, no real sides to speak of and am making more gains than I otherwise would be naturally.

My question is: do you think trenbolone is a more dangerous compound, regarding kidneys, cholesterol, blood pressure, etc.., than orals? I know most orals wreck your cholesterol, dbol and drol especially jack up BP, and stress the liver. Is tren a more toxic compound when it comes to bloodwork, reflected in cholesterol, kidney values, etc.?

Is my thought process irrational in that I would not be afraid to run 30 mg of dbol for 4-6 weeks (with test of course), yet I would be afraid to run tren, even at a lower dose, for the same amount of time? I am not concerned with side effects that you "feel," more so those that are reflected in blood tests, and that may have a negative impact on long term health.


#2

everyone reacts differently. the only way to know for sure is to run the drugs yourself and get blood work while you are on them.

perhaps a 24 hour creatine clearance test to check kidneys