G’day. I’ve read numerous posts and gained alot of useful information. Especially from Ksman . I created my own thread because i think my case is unique. I will post lab results etc but i will start with my story and try to make it as short as possible…
I’m 29 years of age. In my late teens i used alot of sus, tren, prop, winstrol. I tried cyp and probably some others in there. I wouldn’t say i cycled correctly nor have i ever to this day. Taken 1 AI, or done any PCT work. I was young, uneducated and stupid i guess…
So obviously i gained about 18kg from memory at the time. How much i kept back then, i could d not say. I’ve obviously experienced testicular shrinkage (atrophy), not to mention out of whack hormones.
Around 4-5 months ago. I decided to change my lifestyle. As I was getting a big gut and looking like an old man. I only got up too 90kg. But with a very unflattering “beer” style looking gut. I currently weigh 75kg with still an unflattering gut to my eye. But everyone I know has complemented so much on the changes. I’m about 5 ft 10-11" for the record. Anyhow so to detail a bit more about the last 10 years.
I stopped using drugs, cocaine, ecstasy, marijuana, amphetamines about 6 years ago. Never looked back. But I guess I have been using alcohol and take away food over the past 6 years in a negative way. So as I said, 4-5 months ago. I stopped drinking, eating shit. Walking every night. Sometimes jogging. Lifting weights before or after work (Which I’ve done on and off for 10 years) and I’ve managed to drop 15kg. And definently have opened up a new chapter in my life. And will never go back to the sad life of drinking everyday, eating shit 3,4 5 x a day, and even gambling for that matter (horse racing). So I’ve made some significant changes in the past few months, even ended some relationships etc, to really put my best foot forward.
I’m here on t nation. Because now that my mind is clear and I am really happy and positive, I can still feel that there’s something just not right. And I know it’s my hormones. Bloodwork proves this but also 2 weeks ago I started using the supplement DIM. Changes were unbelievable in the 1st week. My self worth, my energy, my libido, my erections all improved dramatically. Then after a week it started to taper off and I was getting the lump in the bottom of throat feeling where your Thyroid gland is. So something was definitely happening. Positive or negative. I don’t know. So in the 2nd week I had some old I Force Nutrition - tripinol xp… So this is where things get more interesting for me.
With these 2 combined in the past week I had started to feel old inklings of myself. It’s very hard to explain. But without sounding like a whacked ****. It’s as if just your everyday senses, like just being here on earth, living life lol. Your everyday senses around you. THEY HAD COME BACK. and I felt alive. Now whilst I say this. It’s also like it was teasing me because. It only partially opened it up and made me feel this way. As in, its short lived and its not strong enough to really fix or help my hormone imbalance.
So I’m here asking for help in regards too my situation. I guess I’ve used drugs alcohol and bad food over the years to deal with not feeling right after incorrect use of steroids as a teenager.
For more information I guess I should add. I sometimes have high libido. Sometimes nothing. Sometimes my erections are strong, sometimes they need more effort. I know this is normal per say but with my effects with (everything I will say) are always on the more extreme end of either scale and don’t stay in the norm. When it comes too testistuclar atrophy. My nuts are definitely smaller then they were before I used steroids. But the thing is it fluctuates everyday. But like I said. To the extreme. Sometimes with sex or masturbation they will try and hide. There’s been numerous times during sex I’ll be forced to used my hand to prevent one trying to escape inside me. Sometimes with masturbation also. But this is not the case everytime. So it can be frustrating as sometimes. They’re bulging and hang low as normal. But will fluctuate, everyday, all day. I MUST SAY, after the DIM over the past 2 weeks. My nuts do have that dead feeling again and are trying to hide way more than usual.
I may have missed some points. But for now. This is why I’m here. I’ve recently called an old mate and talked to him about it. He still uses steroids. I want to run my own TRT. But I thought I’d ask advice first. Does anyone with a situation at all similar to mine. Think it would be beneficial to me to run (don’t laugh) but a PCT 10 years later, before I start using test eth. I will be only using 125mg test eth a week split in two doses. With armidex on hand. To probably start using after about 2 weeks. In very small amounts. To see how my body reacts. I will get bloods done every 2 - 4 weeks to to check on test, est, thyroid, cholesterol, liver levels etc. To see what effect it has.
I have access to HCG, nolva, proviron, clamid. Whatever may be needed.
Would love to know if anyone thinks I should run some HCG and maybe some nolva with a little proviron to try and bring my testes back further before I embark on my own TRT. This is really big decision for me. So any input welcome. My bloods are on the low end of normal T and high end of E. They are as follows…
Total Test - 10 (8.3 - 29)
SHBG - 13 (11 - 71)
Free Test - 295 (255 - 725)
They have been slightly lower in past tests whilst drinking alot of alcohol and eating shit food
TSH - 2.1 (0.5 - 4.0)
Total - 4.2 (3.0 - 5.2)
Triglycerides - 1.2 (0.5 - 1.7)
HDL - 1.1 (1.0 - 2.0)
LDL - 2.5 (1.5 - 3.4)
NON HDL - 3.1 (<3.4)
Cholesterol/HDL-C Ratio - 3.8 (<5.0)
These were results were 3 months ago. And I dare say things could have improved further since then. I really should get one more baseline blood test before I start anything.
I’m this test liver enzymes we’re still a little high from excessive alcohol consumption and poor nutrition choices. I can’t find ESTROGEN results but from memory the main one the doc was explaining was 1 unit. ABOVE the normal range for men.
I really will try get a full blood done again before I embark on anything. Including IGF levels, cortisol, full depth look at Estrogen, Testosterone, Pro Lactin, prostate, ferretin
I know in the past I’ve had really high ferretin results but never looked into it. I know I would need an updated evaluation to really justify any old ferretin results.
So in the end. I will talk with my doc again. But he won’t do TRT unless my total test levels dropped below 8. 9. They have been 9 something in the past. But in his mind, he says everything is in normal range. That may be the case in the protocols he follows. BUT
I guarantee if I never abused steroids incorrectly and followed up with a PCT or tool some AI’s whilst jabbing 10 years ago. That my natural test levels would be alot higher then they are and everything would be in normal preportion and I’d feel OK.
Don’t get me wrong I am happy and feel good but. I’m always just not right. Still fatigued. Depressed and lazy for no reason, not myself. And I guarantee it has to do with my hormones. Whether it be, test, est, thyroid or all of them need balancing.
So if my doctor will not help because I’m not on the wrong end of the scale quite enough. I will do myself. I’ve never taken anti depressants or anything like that and I do not need them. That is not the issue. (Just trying to give more insight on myself) before I hear people’s opinions, help and advice . I’m from Australia. And if there’s anything else people want to know. Just ask. It has been a task trying to write this on a phone and remember everything lol
So just to recap. Should I do a 10 year late
PCT of HCG and nolva. Maybe a bit of proviron before I decide to start using 125mg a week of test e and small amounts of armidex n maybe HCG intermittently with trial and Bloodwork to get it right. Keeping in mind, if anyone knows more then me. Whilst using DIM the past 2 weeks. (I’ve stopped now as I want to get a fresh baseline blood test in a couple of days before Injecting anything.) So keeping In mind the DIM the past 2 weeks was amazing for the 1st week. But just OK 2nd week and now that I’ve stopped my testes really seem to be shrunken and shrivelled at times and can be a slightly bit painful when really shrivelled, trying to hide. But remember 10 mins later, they could be at there fullest, feeling normal.
Thanks for reading. Let’s see what we can conjure