Idle blathering spiced up with false notions of personal responsibility and 'novel' economies;
[i]A: The state i want to create is one that has faced up to and become willing to organize the production of goods and services that we all depend on in a fundamentally different way... because for me, that is the root problem that we haven't faced, that we haven't debated, and that we don't change.
B: Well is the best living eample of that Norway or somewhere in Scandinavia or where is it?
A: Well you have efforst like this that have been in and around capitalism since the beginning...[/i]
Three words; bread and circuses.