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Republicans Breaking Reagans 10 Commandments? Thou Shalt Not Eat Thy Own

Looks like the Republicans are hungry for some power and want to achieve this power by eating republican meat…

Check this out

contributors.blogsome.com/2009/01/28/breaking-the-reagan-10-commandments-thou-shalt-not-eat-they-own/

They’ve lost me to the Libertarian party until they can start acting like conservatives. The Republican party really has nothing to offer right now.

[quote]dhickey wrote:
They’ve lost me to the Libertarian party until they can start acting like conservatives. The Republican party really has nothing to offer right now.[/quote]

The Libertarian party is almost as irrelevant as us bickering in these forums. The reason we are watching everything that made this country the greatest in history being swept down the sewer drain lies in the populous not the politicians. They are the ones (for now) who put their leaders in power.

We are now fully into an era that de Tocqueville warned us about 150 years ago. As long as people are allowed and choose to vote somebody else’s money into their own pockets there is absolutely no hope that this country can survive in anything even vaguely resembling the form it was founded in.

The systematic indoctrination campaign begun in the so called educational institutions in the 60’s has been very effective and is bearing it’s final poisonous fruit as I type this.

The United States of America has entirely lost it’s national identity and done it voluntarily. We have this coming.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
dhickey wrote:
They’ve lost me to the Libertarian party until they can start acting like conservatives. The Republican party really has nothing to offer right now.

The Libertarian party is almost as irrelevant as us bickering in these forums.
[/quote] Agreed. My only hope is that Republicans see the votes the libertarians get as votes they could recapture. voting for a republican is almost as productive as bickering on this forum.

[quote]
The reason we are watching everything that made this country the greatest in history being swept down the sewer drain lies in the populous not the politicians. They are the ones (for now) who put their leaders in power.

We are now fully into an era that de Tocqueville warned us about 150 years ago. As long as people are allowed and choose to vote somebody else’s money into their own pockets there is absolutely no hope that this country can survive in anything even vaguely resembling the form it was founded in.

The systematic indoctrination campaign begun in the so called educational institutions in the 60’s has been very effective and is bearing it’s final poisonous fruit as I type this.

The United States of America has entirely lost it’s national identity and done it voluntarily. We have this coming.[/quote]
yep. The truth is Liberal rhetoric sounds much better than conservative rhetoric.

If the voters only respond to rhetoric, Conservatism is dead. The Republicans can either become liberals that oppose gay marriage and abortion, or they can attempt to educate the voting public on basic economic principals. Probably a losing proposition either way.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
dhickey wrote:
irrelevant as us bickering in these forums.[/quote]

more of this

[quote]politicalpyro wrote:
Looks like the Republicans are hungry for some power and want to achieve this power by eating republican meat…

Check this out

contributors.blogsome.com/2009/01/28/breaking-the-reagan-10-commandments-thou-shalt-not-eat-they-own/
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Sir, this is a site for bodybuilders, strength athlete’s, and other users of iron to gain strength and mass. This section is for those of us weight lifters who want to talk politics. I do not appreciate you trolling this site after finding my post with a link to your site. I am not sure how you found my post. But unless you have a passion for lift weights, you do not belong here regardless of what side of the political spectrum you are on.

Other testosterone members, this guy owns the links he sending and he is apparently drumming up business for his own personal gain. I.E. he is a troll, he doesn’t lift and most assuredly doesn’t know what this site is for.

We should have rules, if you can’t see your dick because of your gut and you do not squat over 900, your in the wrong place.

You are correct. My best squat is nearly 800. But I want to get this right…

I can’t come to this site because my squat is not over 900.

I came across this site because I was looking to make a switch from BSN to other products. I will let the site owners know that it is because of nice folks like you that I may have a second thought about using their products… as the people I work out with squat well over a grand and use BSN.

So… What is your political agenda, mine is clear.

Politicalpyro, I think you will be very happy with some of the products Biotest puts out.

I have not come across a better protein powder, that’s for sure. But thats me. All I know is, the stuff does wonders for me and does not screw up my gut.

Also, the Alpha Male product does me good too…in lots of ways !

[quote]politicalpyro wrote:
You are correct. My best squat is nearly 800. But I want to get this right…

I can’t come to this site because my squat is not over 900.

I came across this site because I was looking to make a switch from BSN to other products. I will let the site owners know that it is because of nice folks like you that I may have a second thought about using their products… as the people I work out with squat well over a grand and use BSN.

So… What is your political agenda, mine is clear.[/quote]

Ok, well if you are telling the truth, then welcome aboard. I assume you have no reason to lie, but you must pardon my suspicions. The first post you ever made was in response to a post I made with a link to your site. From that I got the impression you were mining the internet for people who were referring to your site and going on forums to drum up business.

If this is not your intention, then I apologize and you are welcome here.
We have had trolls, with no interests in lifting come here just to start crap and we don’t like it.

My political intentions are to promote freedom and truth. To not hide behind meaningless words and platitudes. My main political issue is ending abortion; everything else is secondary to me, at least for now. That is my political agenda.

Is you near-800 lbs. squat raw or suited? Biotest products are high-quality, don’t be afraid to buy them… I will be happy to advise on my experience, which are the best ones. Biotest creatine, is by far the best on the market, for instance.

[quote]dhickey wrote:
They’ve lost me to the Libertarian party until they can start acting like conservatives. The Republican party really has nothing to offer right now.[/quote]

You are correct sir. But, unless there is a suitable libertarian or independent running, who has half a chance at winning, I will pick the ®. The Republicans are fucked up right now, but they are not democrats. Right now I will take defeating their agenda, rather than implementing an agenda I like.

Thats some stuff… this is a real change from what me and the boys are doing. I think I’m gona like this site.

900 squat, best I ever done was 505, suited with straps up.

freakin scared me to death

suited, and like mound scared as crap.

your right about me finding the site… it was sort of a double bubble… I was seaching online for new products, checked out the blog, saw the T-Nation hit, came here and said this is way cool, muscle with politics, cant be!

I did go overboard at fisrt… but now I have been upgraded by the host, so I will play like a good tot.

There is no country in the world where money is “voted from one person’s pocket to another”.

Taxes are membership dues. If you don’t like them, you can leave.

[quote]ElbowStrike wrote:
There is no country in the world where money is “voted from one person’s pocket to another”.

Taxes are membership dues. If you don’t like them, you can leave.[/quote]

Now, if we manage to get our taxes lowered dramatically, do away with Soc. Sec., welfare, and medicaid/care, any dissenters should leave should leave too, right?

[quote]dhickey wrote:
<<< If the voters only respond to rhetoric, Conservatism is dead. The Republicans can either become liberals that oppose gay marriage and abortion, or they can attempt to educate the voting public on basic economic principals. Probably a losing proposition either way.
[/quote]

Don’t hold your breath bub. The GOP had the house, the senate and the executive branch for 6 years and did nothing… NAH_THING except kiss ass to the Democrats thus neutering themselves quite effectively.

They have no credibility, even with people like me. Why should anybody listen to them now when they squandered a golden opportunity, beginning with the landslide of 94, to show once and for all what traditional conservative principles can accomplish?

What were getting now is simply the authentic logical conclusion of the big spending big government lite bullshit that they started.

The dems are right on schedule doing exactly and I mean exactly what I knew they would do. We are being set up for an explosion of liberal government intrusion that will literally take a generation to recover from even if there were a thoroughgoing revival of the American spirit starting at the mid term elections.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
dhickey wrote:
<<< If the voters only respond to rhetoric, Conservatism is dead. The Republicans can either become liberals that oppose gay marriage and abortion, or they can attempt to educate the voting public on basic economic principals. Probably a losing proposition either way.

Don’t hold your breath bub. The GOP had the house, the senate and the executive branch for 6 years and did nothing… NAH_THING except kiss ass to the Democrats thus neutering themselves quite effectively.

They have no credibility, even with people like me. Why should anybody listen to them now when they squandered a golden opportunity, beginning with the landslide of 94, to show once and for all what traditional conservative principles can accomplish?

What were getting now is simply the authentic logical conclusion of the big spending big government lite bullshit that they started.

The dems are right on schedule doing exactly and I mean exactly what I knew they would do. We are being set up for an explosion of liberal government intrusion that will literally take a generation to recover from even if there were a thoroughgoing revival of the American spirit starting at the mid term elections.[/quote]

Hard to argue with your post, trib.

This last election had many disturbing facets. First, there was journalistic malpractice.

It was bad in 1992, it was four-fold worse this time.

Anyone who relies on the traditional sources of news: abc/nbc/cbc/new york times/and now cnn, should have their head examined.

Second, the Repulicans ran a guy who was too far left. Contrary to some talking heads, they NEED to return to their roots.

I agree the Republicans need to earn back trust. I think they’ve started to do this. 100% no vote on that abdomination of a “stimulus” package is a start.

Think about it, with obama’s popularity as high as it will ever rise, they could have “gone with the flow.”

They didn’t and should be commended. Further, instead of acting like the dem congress (straight obstructionism), they offered an alternative plan.

They also may be grooming some effective party leaders. Part of the problem during the Bush years was lack of Congressional disclipine.

I have high hopes for Eric Cantor. His first major test (opposing President Pork-Barrel) was an unmitigated success.

I do have to say it’s too bad that Americans have forgotten 1976-1980. It was a foreign and domestic nightmare.

I see a repeat in so many ways. What worries me is that jimmy “peanut farmer” carter didn’t seem like he was personally corrupt. With all the baggage obama brings from his Chicago roots, I’m worried he’ll be even worse than jimmy.

See tax cheaters being put foward and now defended by obama.

I hope I’m wrong.

JeffR

[quote]Jeff R wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
dhickey wrote:
<<< If the voters only respond to rhetoric, Conservatism is dead. The Republicans can either become liberals that oppose gay marriage and abortion, or they can attempt to educate the voting public on basic economic principals. Probably a losing proposition either way.

Don’t hold your breath bub. The GOP had the house, the senate and the executive branch for 6 years and did nothing… NAH_THING except kiss ass to the Democrats thus neutering themselves quite effectively.

They have no credibility, even with people like me. Why should anybody listen to them now when they squandered a golden opportunity, beginning with the landslide of 94, to show once and for all what traditional conservative principles can accomplish?

What were getting now is simply the authentic logical conclusion of the big spending big government lite bullshit that they started.

The dems are right on schedule doing exactly and I mean exactly what I knew they would do. We are being set up for an explosion of liberal government intrusion that will literally take a generation to recover from even if there were a thoroughgoing revival of the American spirit starting at the mid term elections.

Hard to argue with your post, trib.

This last election had many disturbing facets. First, there was journalistic malpractice.

It was bad in 1992, it was four-fold worse this time.

Anyone who relies on the traditional sources of news: abc/nbc/cbc/new york times/and now cnn, should have their head examined.

Second, the Repulicans ran a guy who was too far left. Contrary to some talking heads, they NEED to return to their roots.

I agree the Republicans need to earn back trust. I think they’ve started to do this. 100% no vote on that abdomination of a “stimulus” package is a start.

Think about it, with obama’s popularity as high as it will ever rise, they could have “gone with the flow.”

They didn’t and should be commended. Further, instead of acting like the dem congress (straight obstructionism), they offered an alternative plan.

They also may be grooming some effective party leaders. Part of the problem during the Bush years was lack of Congressional disclipine.

I have high hopes for Eric Cantor. His first major test (opposing President Pork-Barrel) was an unmitigated success.

I do have to say it’s too bad that Americans have forgotten 1976-1980. It was a foreign and domestic nightmare.

I see a repeat in so many ways. What worries me is that jimmy “peanut farmer” carter didn’t seem like he was personally corrupt. With all the baggage obama brings from his Chicago roots, I’m worried he’ll be even worse than jimmy.

See tax cheaters being put foward and now defended by obama.

I hope I’m wrong.

JeffR[/quote]

The observations on the GOP are absolutely correct. They put so much attention on being “by partisan” and accommodating to democrat ideals that they forgot who they were. It was a flighty, unprincipled mosh of bad legislation and just plain laziness.
It doesn’t matter who youwould have put up next to Obama, the repulicans hadno chance this election. You couple an a very unpopular war, and economic crash, and a bad GOP president it would have been a miracle if any republican would have had a shot.
I don’t think the republicans need to return to their root, I think they need to reinvent themselves. They need to take in to account and adopt the principles of the libertarians and other independents who would be ashamed to call themselves republicans. Now is the time, they’d better take advantage of it, or they will just fade away and we’ll be a socialist country.

[quote]pat wrote:

The observations on the GOP are absolutely correct. They put so much attention on being “by partisan” and accommodating to democrat ideals that they forgot who they were. It was a flighty, unprincipled mosh of bad legislation and just plain laziness.
It doesn’t matter who youwould have put up next to Obama, the repulicans hadno chance this election. You couple an a very unpopular war, and economic crash, and a bad GOP president it would have been a miracle if any republican would have had a shot.
I don’t think the republicans need to return to their root, I think they need to reinvent themselves. They need to take in to account and adopt the principles of the libertarians and other independents who would be ashamed to call themselves republicans.

Now is the time, they’d better take advantage of it, or they will just fade away and we’ll be a socialist country.[/quote]

Bi-Partisan used to mean, and not that long ago, issues pertaining to firmly established American principles that were beyond dispute by either party. It has now come to denote this nauseating quest for inclusiveness whereby compromise rules the day and in the end enough Republicans are onboard the latest leftist scheme to see it become law.

I have more respect for the Dems on that level right now. They are basically telling the Republicans to kiss off. Something the Republicans haven’t been able to do for at least 10 years now.

We really have become a pussified country of group hugging convictionless political hermaphrodites. A nation where undecided unprincipled “moderates” aka swing voters are viewed, especially by themselves, as the intellectual elite.