SM, thanks. It is fun writing with you. It’s amazing how much we agree on and how much we disagree on as well! It’s always good to hear your opinion, and your understanding of AQ and AfPak is great.
PS it’s weird how on the internet someone named “SexMachine” can actually be interesting to talk to… lol
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
I don’t recall hearing Huntsman’s name being in the “kook corner.” Can I ask why you think this?
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Huntsman indicated that he would withdraw from Afghanistan immediately. He also sided with Ron Paul in opposing waterboarding. I’m just lumping Santorum, Huntsman and Paul together as foreign policy kooks.[/quote]
haha. Is McCain a “half-kook”?
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
What are you doing over in enemy territory? Considering a republican this time around?
Wish more of them would’ve had the chance to answer the torture/waterboarding question.
Actually liked the Perry/Gingrich foreign aid view. We’re a fading military/economic power. A foreign aid recipient should periodically make their case for redistributed tax-dollars. We’re going to disengage a great deal over the course of this century, let’s not pretend otherwise.
Gingrich on Egypt and the rest of the middle east was excellent. Religious (and non-religious) minorities are in trouble. Careful cheering on regime-change, as what comes after might be at least just as ugly. ‘Democratic’ tyranny is no better when your churches are being razed to the ground.
Best moment:
- YouTube [/quote]
Isnt it funny how easy it is to cheer for fascism?
And they have not even donned their uniform and shiny boots!
This is all so exciting!
How could “it” happen?
One step at a time of course.
[/quote]
A slow invisible process in the mind of most citizen but a very clear path for those that lead them. [/quote]
A very clear path for anyone who has eyes to see and a moderate sense of history.
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
What are you doing over in enemy territory? Considering a republican this time around?
Wish more of them would’ve had the chance to answer the torture/waterboarding question.
Actually liked the Perry/Gingrich foreign aid view. We’re a fading military/economic power. A foreign aid recipient should periodically make their case for redistributed tax-dollars. We’re going to disengage a great deal over the course of this century, let’s not pretend otherwise.
Gingrich on Egypt and the rest of the middle east was excellent. Religious (and non-religious) minorities are in trouble. Careful cheering on regime-change, as what comes after might be at least just as ugly. ‘Democratic’ tyranny is no better when your churches are being razed to the ground.
Best moment:
- YouTube [/quote]
Isnt it funny how easy it is to cheer for fascism?
And they have not even donned their uniform and shiny boots!
This is all so exciting!
How could “it” happen?
One step at a time of course.
[/quote]
A slow invisible process in the mind of most citizen but a very clear path for those that lead them. [/quote]
On second thought, nobody is masterminding this.
This is just power hungry and clueless buffoons and hoi polloi cheering them on.
Human nature, nothing to see here really.
Well, it was nice while it lasted.
Hey, maybe China will be our next shining city on the hill?
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
I don’t recall hearing Huntsman’s name being in the “kook corner.” Can I ask why you think this?
[/quote]
Huntsman indicated that he would withdraw from Afghanistan immediately. He also sided with Ron Paul in opposing waterboarding. I’m just lumping Santorum, Huntsman and Paul together as foreign policy kooks.[/quote]
haha. Is McCain a “half-kook”? [/quote]
McCain? He’s pretty good foreign policy wise. Although he got distracted by Iraq and missed the al-Qaeda/Taliban resurgence in Af-Pak 2002-2006.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
SM, thanks. It is fun writing with you. It’s amazing how much we agree on and how much we disagree on as well! It’s always good to hear your opinion, and your understanding of AQ and AfPak is great.
PS it’s weird how on the internet someone named “SexMachine” can actually be interesting to talk to… lol[/quote]
Thanks. We probably agree on more than you realise. Truth is I have as much in common with Democrats as Republicans and I’m as much of a “liberal” as a “conservative” in many ways.
An active enemy combatant during an ongoing conflict. As he had not surrendered, and was indeed acting in the capacity of his role up to the last second of his life, he was a legit target. When you begin equating fascism with the killing of active enemy combatants in the field, you immediately lose all credibility. Not every Confederate had to be arrested on a warrant. Or if you’re a Rothbardian secessionist, not every Union blue needed to be taken alive.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
An active enemy combatant during an ongoing conflict. As he had not surrendered, and was indeed acting in the capacity of his role up to the last second of his life, he was a legit target. When you begin equating fascism with the killing of active enemy combatants in the field, you immediately lose all credibility. Not every Confederate had to be arrested on a warrant. Or if you’re a Rothbardian secessionist, not every Union blue needed to be taken alive. [/quote]
Yeah, sure.
He was an “enemy combatant”.
The moment you play word games without any proof whatsoever, not only your credibility does not matter anymore, because you not only just chucked out 1000 years of western civilization, you also ring the death knell for your country.
Well, good luck with that.
PS: you need a song.
Alrighty then, how hard can it be to learn Mandarin?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
What are you doing over in enemy territory? Considering a republican this time around?
Wish more of them would’ve had the chance to answer the torture/waterboarding question.
Actually liked the Perry/Gingrich foreign aid view. We’re a fading military/economic power. A foreign aid recipient should periodically make their case for redistributed tax-dollars. We’re going to disengage a great deal over the course of this century, let’s not pretend otherwise.
Gingrich on Egypt and the rest of the middle east was excellent. Religious (and non-religious) minorities are in trouble. Careful cheering on regime-change, as what comes after might be at least just as ugly. ‘Democratic’ tyranny is no better when your churches are being razed to the ground.
Best moment:
- YouTube [/quote]
Isnt it funny how easy it is to cheer for fascism?
And they have not even donned their uniform and shiny boots!
This is all so exciting!
How could “it” happen?
One step at a time of course.
[/quote]
A slow invisible process in the mind of most citizen but a very clear path for those that lead them. [/quote]
A very clear path for anyone who has eyes to see and a moderate sense of history. [/quote]
True
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
What are you doing over in enemy territory? Considering a republican this time around?
Wish more of them would’ve had the chance to answer the torture/waterboarding question.
Actually liked the Perry/Gingrich foreign aid view. We’re a fading military/economic power. A foreign aid recipient should periodically make their case for redistributed tax-dollars. We’re going to disengage a great deal over the course of this century, let’s not pretend otherwise.
Gingrich on Egypt and the rest of the middle east was excellent. Religious (and non-religious) minorities are in trouble. Careful cheering on regime-change, as what comes after might be at least just as ugly. ‘Democratic’ tyranny is no better when your churches are being razed to the ground.
Best moment:
- YouTube [/quote]
Isnt it funny how easy it is to cheer for fascism?
And they have not even donned their uniform and shiny boots!
This is all so exciting!
How could “it” happen?
One step at a time of course.
[/quote]
A slow invisible process in the mind of most citizen but a very clear path for those that lead them. [/quote]
On second thought, nobody is masterminding this.
This is just power hungry and clueless buffoons and hoi polloi cheering them on.
Human nature, nothing to see here really.
Well, it was nice while it lasted.
Hey, maybe China will be our next shining city on the hill?
[/quote]
It is power hungry people who wants more power. Were that will lead them they don’t care, they just want more and more and know they can have it just step by step.
[quote]orion wrote:
He was an “enemy combatant”.
…without any proof whatsoever…[/quote]
Anwar al-Awlaki in as-Sahab(al-Qaeda) video calling on the Ummah(Muslims everywhere) to kill American civilians and servicemen and women and praising his “student” Major Nidal Malik Hasan:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
It is power hungry people who wants more power. Were that will lead them they don’t care, they just want more and more and know they can have it just step by step. [/quote]
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He was an “enemy combatant”.
…without any proof whatsoever…[/quote]
Anwar al-Awlaki in as-Sahab(al-Qaeda) video calling on the Ummah(Muslims everywhere) to kill American civilians and servicemen and women and praising his “student” Major Nidal Malik Hasan:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6512422n[/quote]
Free speech darling, free speech.
One of those God given rights the US government is supposed to protect.
Maybe there are limits to it, we are all eagerly awaiting the SCOTUS decision.
Oh wait, we dont, he was killed on an elected bureaucrats say so.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
It is power hungry people who wants more power. Were that will lead them they don’t care, they just want more and more and know they can have it just step by step. [/quote]
New Kids On The Block - Step By Step - YouTube [/quote]
Glad that you find it amusing.
I think that there is nothing funny about the US passing on the torch after not even a hundred years.
This is a tragedy and no cause for celebration.
Then again, the Chinese rarely, if ever ventured beyond their own back yard…
So, maybe it is all for the better…
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He was an “enemy combatant”.
…without any proof whatsoever…[/quote]
Anwar al-Awlaki in as-Sahab(al-Qaeda) video calling on the Ummah(Muslims everywhere) to kill American civilians and servicemen and women and praising his “student” Major Nidal Malik Hasan:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6512422n[/quote]
Free speech darling, free speech.
One of those God given rights the US government is supposed to protect.
Maybe there are limits to it, we are all eagerly awaiting the SCOTUS decision.
Oh wait, we dont, he was killed on an elected bureaucrats say so. [/quote]
Incitement to murder and treason is not free speech. There’s also the matter of his involvement in planning, logistics and financing of several attacks. Not free speech darling. Bye now.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He was an “enemy combatant”.
…without any proof whatsoever…[/quote]
Anwar al-Awlaki in as-Sahab(al-Qaeda) video calling on the Ummah(Muslims everywhere) to kill American civilians and servicemen and women and praising his “student” Major Nidal Malik Hasan:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6512422n[/quote]
Free speech darling, free speech.
One of those God given rights the US government is supposed to protect.
Maybe there are limits to it, we are all eagerly awaiting the SCOTUS decision.
Oh wait, we dont, he was killed on an elected bureaucrats say so. [/quote]
Incitement to murder and treason is not free speech. There’s also the matter of his involvement in planning, logistics and financing of several attacks. Not free speech darling. Bye now.[/quote]
Proof, honeybun?
You know, the kind of proof that stands up in court, sugartits?
Not to mention some procedural formalities, like how the US jurisdiction suddenly seems to be the whole planet and not just mainland US, sweetypie?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
He was an “enemy combatant”.
…without any proof whatsoever…[/quote]
Anwar al-Awlaki in as-Sahab(al-Qaeda) video calling on the Ummah(Muslims everywhere) to kill American civilians and servicemen and women and praising his “student” Major Nidal Malik Hasan:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6512422n[/quote]
Free speech darling, free speech.
One of those God given rights the US government is supposed to protect.
Maybe there are limits to it, we are all eagerly awaiting the SCOTUS decision.
Oh wait, we dont, he was killed on an elected bureaucrats say so. [/quote]
Incitement to murder and treason is not free speech. There’s also the matter of his involvement in planning, logistics and financing of several attacks. Not free speech darling. Bye now.[/quote]
Proof, honeybun?
You know, the kind of proof that stands up in court, sugartits?
Not to mention some procedural formalities, like how the US jurisdiction suddenly seems to be the whole planet and not just mainland US, sweetypie?
[/quote]
A video of Awlaki calling on all Muslims to murder Americans and kill US forces wouldn’t stand up in court? There’s enough there to convict him of treason for starters. However, waging war is not the jurisdiction of the courts sailor. Gingrich explained it better than I could.
The boy that cried wolf.