Hi guys, I have had a major issue with trying to get Dbol. Every person I have asked that i thought could get it cant get it anymore/right now. I was planning on running my cycle in late April and it is unlikely that I will be able to get Dbol by that time. I was planning to run the following. No, this isnt my first cycle, I have used AAS before but I did it badly and stupidly and I am trying to move up from there.
w1-w4: 30mg Dbol per day
w1-w7: 400mg Test Cyp per week (injecting twice a week, 100mg per 1ml)
I have Arimidex on hand as well as Nolva or Clomid (hopefully, I dont have that yet either but it is looking a lot better then the Dbol).
I am planning on trying to put on 20lb+ over the cycle.
But what do you think would be a good choice if I do have to replace the Dbol?
I agree that I am not going to start till I get everything.
soontobeIFBB, I was under the impression that Proprionate was nearly the same as Cyp. Why should I use it over just using more Cyp?
Testanabol, when you say add more cyp, do you think I should just up the dose I am using over the 7 weeks already stated or if I should just make it 11 weeks of Cyp?
[quote]Vatic wrote:
I agree that I am not going to start till I get everything.
soontobeIFBB, I was under the impression that Proprionate was nearly the same as Cyp. Why should I use it over just using more Cyp?
Testanabol, when you say add more cyp, do you think I should just up the dose I am using over the 7 weeks already stated or if I should just make it 11 weeks of Cyp?[/quote]
I’ll answer both questions if thats okay.
The prop ester is very short lived, it requires daily or every other day injections. Cyp is a much longer ester, not too de-similar from enanthate, injections every 3 days whilst on will provide stable blood levels though of course the ester is in the system much longer.
What IFBB is saying is that using a daily injection of test prop, 50mg perhaps brings your total count of steroid up, will kick in faster etc.
Since i was away from this place for a while, it seems to have become the thing to be reccomending short cycle, 7-8 weeks. Whilst there are some benefits to doing this, recovery primarily, i am still a firm believer in 10-12 week cycles, i have tried both and the longer cycle wins out for me everytime. So yes, shoot for a 10-12 weeks cycle with your cyp at 500-750mg per week.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
cyp is normally dosed at 250mg/ml not 100mg/ml. That will make for large injections…[/quote]
If it is pharmaceutical it may be 100mg amps. But usually it is dosed higher, you are right. He’s in austrailia though, I guess he’s lucky he can get anything.
I am still going to be in search of Dbol, but as BONEZ217 said I’m in Aus which makes it very difficult to get anything.
I don’t think I will be able to use prop as I am required to be capable at work so I need to keep my injections to a min (I am a bouncer). Hence only using Cyp twice weekly. I am using Testo LA which is Vet use but only 100mg per ml, if I can find some cheaper (like if my girlfriends vet nurse friend comes thru) I will up the dose to 600mg per week for 8-10weeks, but right now its costing me $450 per 10ml! So right now 600mg per week for 10weeks would cost me $2700. I love my country but fuck I hate the price of 'roids over here.
A friend of mine has mentioned that he knows someone who can get a lot of stuff so I will see if he has Dbol, if not I will ask about Tbol and Anadrol. Thanks guys.
p.s. Any more advice on this will be taken appreciatively.
[quote]Vatic wrote:
but right now its costing me $450 per 10ml! So right now 600mg per week for 10weeks would cost me $2700. I love my country but fuck I hate the price of 'roids over here.
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You are a fool. Unless you are absolutely loaded you are making a poor life decision spending that much money on steroids. Unless you are pulling down a 6 figure salary spending that much money just gain 15 pounds seems rather absurd. The reason many people use steroids is because it cheaper when cost/gains ratio is compared to supplements.
It would be cheaper to move out of Austrailia. Yes I understand that it is a personal choice, I am just giving my opinion. Obviously I am a frugal person. Don’t feel compelled to give out any financial information but I just hope that $2700 is disposable income.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Vatic wrote:
but right now its costing me $450 per 10ml! So right now 600mg per week for 10weeks would cost me $2700. I love my country but fuck I hate the price of 'roids over here.
You are a fool. Unless you are absolutely loaded you are making a poor life decision spending that much money on steroids. Unless you are pulling down a 6 figure salary spending that much money just gain 15 pounds seems rather absurd. The reason many people use steroids is because it cheaper when cost/gains ratio is compared to supplements.
It would be cheaper to move out of Austrailia. Yes I understand that it is a personal choice, I am just giving my opinion. Obviously I am a frugal person. Don’t feel compelled to give out any financial information but I just hope that $2700 is disposable income. [/quote]
I’m a little less blunt than my mate Bonez but I’ve got to agree. That’s simply ri-goddman-diculous. Nutrageous even! Fuck the union at that point mate.
As I said it “would cost me”, but it looks like I will be able to get it cheaper then that because of my the vet nurse, thats the only reason why I am planning on using it. Then the price would be absolutly hammered down to about $600 for 10 weeks. Dbol is about $250 per 100tabs (10mg), Var is about $450 per 100tabs (10mg). Yeah its fucked up over here, but it is getting better.
[quote]Vatic wrote:
I agree that I am not going to start till I get everything.
soontobeIFBB, I was under the impression that Proprionate was nearly the same as Cyp. Why should I use it over just using more Cyp?
Testanabol, when you say add more cyp, do you think I should just up the dose I am using over the 7 weeks already stated or if I should just make it 11 weeks of Cyp?[/quote]
Cyp is closer in ester length to Enthanate not Prop.
[quote]MaddyD wrote:
Vatic wrote:
I agree that I am not going to start till I get everything.
soontobeIFBB, I was under the impression that Proprionate was nearly the same as Cyp. Why should I use it over just using more Cyp?
Testanabol, when you say add more cyp, do you think I should just up the dose I am using over the 7 weeks already stated or if I should just make it 11 weeks of Cyp?
Cyp is closer in ester length to Enthanate not Prop.[/quote]
Yeah, I already figured out that I had mixed the 2 up.