You are forgetting that the body does different things with different types of calories.
Yes, fat and carbohydrates can both be stored as fat. The cool thing, however, is that carbohydrates can also be stored as glycogen. So if you deplete glycogen… then eat carbs… well, your body still needs to fuel itself during that time. Guess where it comes from?
[quote]JMoUCF87 wrote:
I’ll address each of Thibs points individually:
Thibs reply:
"1. More high fat days in the beginning to switch the metabolism to utilizing fat for fuel (establishing ketosis). A lot of people have a hard time with low-carbs dieting because their initial fat intake is not high enough (or their protein intake is too high, which leads to neoglucogenesis which makes it very hard to switch to a fat-first metabolism).
Adding fat doesn’t switch your body to using fat for fuel. Lowering carbs does. Carb intake and fat oxidation are inversely proportional, as carbs come down, fat oxidation goes up.
Secondly, ketogenic diets offer no metabolic advantage over nonketogenic diets of equal protein and calories. The more fat you eat on a ketogenic diet, the slower your rate of fat loss.
Furthermore, you can be in ketosis and not lose an ounce of fat, you can even gain fat. Focusing on “establishing ketosis” is missing the big picture.
- When the body is fat-adapted, fat intake can be lowered while still using it as a primary fuel source as long as carbs are not increased. At this point, more protein days are added which will prevent muscle loss (very little muscle loss will occur during the first week of a diet).
Or, you could just do a high protein, moderate-to-low carb and fat diet from the beginning and skip all the complex macro shifting that doesn’t do jack shit.
Not to mention the low protein (30%) + low calories in the first phase of the diet is a great way to lose muscle.
- Then we gradually add higher carb days to prevent a fat-gain rebound
“fat-gain rebound”? From what? The calories are the same throughout the entire diet! You’re not going to gain back a bunch of fat if you’re still eating 11 calories per lb.
Furthermore, it has been shown that the metabolic switch that occurs when a diet changes drastically is one of the main reasons for the initial fat loss during a diet.
LOL! Ok, this one is just stupid. Sorry Thibs, but the ONLY way someone can lose fat is through a caloric deficit.
No amount of “drastic changes” in a diet is going to produce fat loss unless it involves eating less, or moving more. You can play around with macro ratios all you want, but unless you cut calories somewhere, all you’re gonna lose is water & glycogen.
Not to mention that your ‘‘logic’’ is based on the principle of ‘‘a calorie is a calorie’’. Which is not the case. The same amount of calories from protein, fat or carbs doesn’t have the same metabolic effect. For one thing, protein increases the thermic effect of feeding twice as much as carbs or fat. This means that it will take twice as much energy (calories used by the body) to digest and absorb 500 calories worth of protein than the same amount of carbs or fat."
Awesome! That must explain why you aren’t even getting 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight 2-3 days out of the week on your diet! Oh wait…no it doesn’t.
Basically, this diet is garbage. As is most everything else Thibs writes about nutrition.[/quote]