Joe Brook wrote:
I guess you are right, in the States you guys get to train properly in a gym for other sports, from a very young age.
Not here… it isn’t seen. Not till about 16 when we leave high school, we simply dont have the high school leagues you do, i believe high school football is as big as normal isnt it?
So in the UK a 17 year old that can bench more than 135lbs is a sight!
It really is a different world so i totally forget that your high school or college kids are often stronger than me…
I looked on a comparison article yesterday and my strength is equivalent to a high school leader!! lmao! shit… sniff.
But still, those are some fine lifts even for his age, i am not trying to fucking predict the future, but wouldn’t you agree he has a better chance than an average kid, or than i did at 17, or what about you, having the same culture, were your lifts better than his? Of course they were…
Most kids at 17, i’d go so far as to say the majority, cant be lifting more than that naturally, surely? Maybe the OP should answer that as he spends more time with 17 year olds than us (I hope!)
Don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t bashing you, and he still has great lifts for his age and training experience. Certainly worth being proud of.
I was just saying, many people, whether it be because they are in the U.K., or because they don’t know many football players/certain sport athletes etc, but many people on this site and just in the world in general vastly underestimate the amount of strength many training, and young training individuals possess.
Yes, they look strong to the general, non-training population, and they are strong, absolutely. But my point was that there are more and more and more strong ass young guys and people, for whatever reason, I honestly don’t have an answer for why, just underestimate how many there are.
Thats why so many people call bullshit on so many peoples lifts on this site. Sure, many e-numbers are bullshit, but thats apparant because of who’s posting them, not because they don’t exist among that age range.
My real point is that alot of guys just have the attitude is “no way a natural teenager is that strong”; but in reality, yes, there are many, you just have to look in teh right places, like good football programs, wrestling programs, high school weightlifting teams etc etc.
I would bet alot of people on this site got into training without having been around a “team” like in football or something, which is why they are surprised when there are so many. All they see is the people at their gym, and the average gym goer certainly isn’t that strong.
Having never been around an organization where weightlifting is a big component, they just don’t realize how many guys there really are out there putting up those numbers.
Thats all, no worries man I wasn’t really disagreeing with you, I was just saying alot of people underestimate the number of strong young guys in existence. [/quote]
I agree! I am guilty of that too, i feel “sheltered” almost as i never see any kids putting up anything near me, and i aint strong by any means.
you are right i suspect though, and in the UK it is especially true, as like i said, we dont get to use external resistance as part of a team until over 16!! and probably not until 18 due to bone closure etc…