You gonna supplement with tudca/nac or anything else?
I actually havenāt read up on those. Good for offsetting sides? Iām most concerned about HDL & HCT
Just helps lesson the strain on your liver. A lot of people take them daily regardless of oral steroids. Iāll be running it along side my varw
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Damn, this stuff is expensive. Cycle Support looks like a good one though
Yea nothing in this game is cheap except the gym membership 
Been reading about dose timing for orals and found something interesting that makes sense to me. Most orals have short half lives, so you either are constantly taking them, or you never really get to that steady state. One guy made the point of taking them ore workout on workout days or heavy daysā¦ get the benifit of increased strength to help aid in progressive overload, and let the other drugs your on (test) help with the recovery on the off days.
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It seems the half life of anavar is 10-13 hours, so that makes sense. I like the idea of taking it on workout days and the test on the other days; that logic makes sense to me too. I wonder how long it would take for the oxandrolone to ākick in,ā so to speak ā like, if youāre working out in the afternoon, should you take it first thing in the a.m.? From what Iāve read, I donāt think youāll really feel it, but I could be wrong.
@readalot What do you think of TUDCA/NAC (and possible dosage) for liver support while on anavar? Did you take any? Contemplating 600 mg NAC and 250 TUDCA.
My ALT/AST are both normal. ALT is a little low (41) but not bad. ALB is slightly above range (5.2). Liver tests for me have generally been their worst when T was highest.
It really isnāt though. Few AAS induce the sheer level of lipid fuckage oxandrolone is capable of. Kidney stress, transient hepatotoxicity also factor in as presenting issues associated with prolonged and cumulative dosing.
And they shouldnāt. The word ālongevityā and anything c17-aa donāt belong in the same sentence.
Primobolan is a drug one could feasibly arguably is āsaferā/āless toxicā and as a result you find users have to pump higher dosages in order to elicit a desired effect. After which point, is it really less toxic?
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Why do you think it has this āsafeā reputation, in that case? Because side effects are more salient long term and less visible in the here and now?
So, this is the quagmire Iām inā¦I donāt want to sacrifice health but do want to improve my T ratio.
Given that SHBG is the perpetual thorn in my side, do you see any other options besides oxandrolone (given that I already tried Danazol)? The āflood the system with Tā approach doesnāt seem to be working either, as 238 mg is a hefty dose and SHBG remains mid-70s.
And not very cost-effective, lolā¦I wonder if Iāll end up trying out a very low dose for the long term. I have a feeling 50 mg EOD will feel good but induce too much damage for my liking. I know even 2.5 had bad effects for you.
I still donāt understand how clinics can āget awayā with RXing these. Iāve never tried Primo but Iām about to give it a go. Like @unreal24278 mentioned, Iāve heard you need to run it fairly high for results so Iām not sure how negatively impactful it will be in moderate doses.
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Primo has been by far my favorite even for a few weeks before it accelerated hair loss. Not even just gains; mood, everything felt great. Youāre making me miss it nowā¦ but Iām in. Iāll have to put my political activism toward the feds, Iām in the most restricted, awful State in the world.
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Can you elaborate on the specifics of why it looks better? Obviously is better than anything c17-aa but for injectables not sure how its better than Nandrolone or how about a more comparable DHT such as Masteron.
TRT/hormone experimentation exposes this in all of us
This does seem like a strange double standard to me
What dose were you taking? Did you do bloods to see effects or just going off SWB?
I know @dextermorgan has used Masteron ā Dex, Iām guessing you got it UG and not through your AA clinic?
Iāve used Masteron several times. Throws off your lipids a bit but its a definite feel good drug with little in the way of side effects otherwise at reasonable dosages. Last time I ran 300 test cyp / 300 mast per week for 10 weeks. It was a good recomp cycle.
How has adding Mast impacted your T ratio and SHBG (if you know from any previous labs)?