[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
[quote]Thuggish wrote:
[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
For what they take. Most powerlifters I know use tren every cycle, or most anyway. Test is usually high, around 750-1500, although there is a low test fad right now where guys are using low test (125-250) and higher doses of other AAS, for example maybe 900-1000mg EQ, mast, or deca. Some even go that high with tren and low test.
A typical AAS cycle though would be something like
12 weeks peaking to a meet
Week 1-12 Test cypionate at 750-1000mg/week
Week 7-12 Oral ( Most do something like one of these examples…dbol@ 30-75mg/day, anadrol@50-100mg/day, var@75-100mg/day, those are the most common that I see) Some also either add 2 weeks of halo at the end at 20mg/day, or they may replace the more common orals used with 4 weeks of halo@20mg/day at the end.
Another injectable is ran along with this often, usually something like
Week 7-12 Tren acetate@ 50-100mg/day
or
Week 1-12 tren E @ 400-800mg/week
or
Week 1-12 EQ @ 400-800/week and/or Week 1-12 Mast E at 400-800/week
Halo, suspension, d-bol, drol, oral tren are all common pre-workout/meet, and for those that have access cheque drops are used pre-competition/training sometimes as well.
That is usually what I see and hear about in powerlifting.
For olympic lifters I hear about most of them sticking to test suspension and things like that which clear faster, but I don’t know as many olympic lifters and they don’t seem as quick to talk about it as powerlifters so I haven’t really learned as much about their drug use.
Most of the top powerlifters don’t have to beat a test because they don’t lift in drug tested federations.
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While I am very far from being an expert, is 750-1500 T not a ridiculously high dosage? I was under the impression that 500 was a good size dosage.
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500 is good for a first cycle, and most can continue making gains on 500mg for quite awhile. While this is true, many use much higher doses. It all comes down to whether you think the additional sides are worth the additional gains and how well you are personally able to tolerate higher doses.
I have ran 1000mg cyp, added 100mg/day prop 4 weeks out, and another 100mg suspension the last 10 days. So that last 10 days I was at about 2400mg/week of just test. I was also using d-bol, tren and EQ…
The sides just keep getting worse for me, with gains that are no better than at about 1000-1500mg of total androgens a week. Its not uncommon to see shit like that, but I personally don’t feel enough of an extra benefit to justify feeling like shit the whole time so I am keeping it lower now.
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Lots of good and accurate information right there.
I compete in tested devisions however my training partners (both current world record holders) use very similar cycles.
That halo on meet day really makes them teddy bears to deal with…haha[/quote]
Personally I prefer a cocktail of shit on meet day. In training the best combo I had was 20mg d-bol, 10mg halo, 250cg oral tren, 100mg suspension, and 25mg anadrol… still not sure why I was too stupid to do that on meet day instead of the 500mcg oral tren, 30mg halo, and 100mg suspension I had through the day.
NOTE: I pretty much completely disregard my health, so don’t take my list of pre-training shit as a suggestion. It is just what I use on days I know I want a big PR. I took that the first time I hit 700 raw, and its been a staple pre-workout regimen ever since, but I try to limit it to 2 times a month. Usually my pre-workout is 20mg d-bol, or if I am about to do an injection before the gym anyway I will throw in 50-100mg suspension.