Taking advice from bossa I raised my dose of test to 30mg daily 210mg a week. Doing this for two weeks feeling lethargic, gained 6lbs, socks leaving deep impressions in skin, having trouble breathing with cardio, easy to anger, Anxiety, slight improvement in erections and libido Is the only benefit so far.
Drop back to 20mg daily or ride it out?
Here is labs at 20mg daily? Took two weeks to get I raised dose day after labs.
You made a change, so now you have to stick with it. This is where people start to make mistakes. I made the jump to 210mg on dailies also. Feel pretty good but took me a couple of weeks to feel the benefits. Started to look better too. It takes some time
Your numbers look pretty good but that’s crazy that 210mg a week only raise your total test to 700’s. Mine is up in the 1400’s on 200mg a week (daily injections).
I think he is doing sub q and except that obviously he is not absorbing the sub q well this kind of administration may be causing some of the symptoms he experienced.
And raising the dose if that is the case wont compensate, at least that was the case for me
@p.hunt you have two options here. Either ride it out and see if things stabilize as it has only been two weeks, or drop the dose down to 25mg a day for a bit to see if the sides go away. You can always do 25 for a while and try bumping to 30 later on if you feel it neccessary to do so.
More likely, but still seems suspiciously low for 140mg, even though some people just need higher dosage on any method of administration but I think they are rare
I had similar values on 160mg weekly when I was not absorbing sub q well anymore
@vonko1988 A total of 742 on 140mg a week is rare? On which planet? Yours? You’ve already made the assumption he’s doing Sub-Q when he never mentioned it.
His free T was 21 on 140mg a week. He had symptoms. I suggested that 50% more T may raise his free T by 50% and get him closer to the free T of 30 I often see guys needing for symptom resolution. Libido and erections are now improving but he’s getting new symptoms now. Either wait it out for a bit more or lower dose to 25mg a day. Daily was recommended due to his SHBG of 12.
Keep digging that hole. The stuff you are saying is pure nonsense. Does embarrassing yourself turn you on or something?
Lots of docs start guys at 200mg a week and in Europe you get 250mg a week of Sustanon. Why? Because 140mg rarely gets the job done! It’s the exact opposite of what you’re spewing. You give advice based on your own personal experience and it doesn’t apply to the vast majority of men. My total test was 604 on 140mg a week IM and I’ve met plenty that needed significantly higher doses for symptom resolution. NOT rare.
Yes it is rare. Tell me how much of these guys are doing sub q and shallow IM?
You also judge mostly by your own experience here, because you are from the rare cases whi really need higher dose to get levels.
Most people I know with 150mg per week are above 1300. And I have the other extreme examples. I know a guy while doing 275mg got to 4200 with that dose(ok over responder) and another one with 175mg who was on 2500. I should have listened to them months earlier, giving me advice to switch to IM.
If you will talk about the stupid endo protocols of using sustanon in Europe, the default way is one 250mg ampule for 20-21 days. So do the math on your won
I’m not judging by my personal experience! My personal experience is mostly IRRELEVANT. I’m judging based on the fact that I’ve personally worked with almost 2000 men at this point and I have enough data to see what doses and serum levels men are getting. I am an outlier. It’s rare for men to need what I need so I can’t judge their strategy based on me because that would be stupid. In virtually every post you compare the person to you, which is ridiculous! There are TONS of guys in the Facebook group taking 250mg a WEEK of Sustanon. So unless you were living under a rock the whole time you were in there, you would have seen it for yourself. To most men, going SubQ or shallow IM or full IM changes virtually NOTHING with their serum levels. There is even a study that demonstrates this! SOME men get better results using one method over the other. If you dealt with as many men as I have, you would have seen this. BUT YOU’RE STILL FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET YOURSELF DIALED IN!
This is absolute bulshit and one study doesnt mean a thing. The administration method often has a lot of significance, in many men it does not. You very well know what are the arguments against putting oil in the fat tissue and how that may distort the whole process
Still waiting author of the post to share whether he is doing sub-q
Provide your study that it makes a difference for the vast majority of men. Do it.
I even ran a trial on myself using both methods. Serum values were virtually identical in both cases. Most men that are doing amazing with daily shots are doing SubQ. Again, you must be living under a rock.