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Questions on Potential


#1

Ive been training for 5 months and have seen some good results , but what would tell somone if they have true potential for bodybuilding ? Ive hear genetics blah blah blah , but what entails good genetics and how do i know if i fit that category , im 6ft3 285lbs at 19%


#2

Find a good bodybuilder and ask him. Potential in bodybuilding is closely related to the proportions of your frame, insertion points etc. Alternatively, you could also post pictures here.


#3

okay, thanks man , ill figure out how to post a pic here shortly , i apreciate you taking the time to reply


#4

[quote]jake51571 wrote:
Ive been training for 5 months … im 6ft3 285lbs at 19% [/quote]

I think that if this is true then you most definitely have what it takes


#5

[quote]jake51571 wrote:
Ive been training for 5 months and have seen some good results , but what would tell somone if they have true potential for bodybuilding ? Ive hear genetics blah blah blah , but what entails good genetics and how do i know if i fit that category , im 6ft3 285lbs at 19% [/quote]

If your numbers are accurate, you are carrying ~230# of LBM. Thus, if you dieted down, you would be shredded (ie, contest shape) at ~240#. This means that in only 5 months of training, you have managed to create a physique comparable to Arnold’s (who was ~235# at 6’2" on-stage), and thus have the greatest genetics the world has ever seen. Either that, OR…

One of your two numbers (ie, BW and BF%age) is way off. Given that measuring BW is straightforward/easy, your BF%age estimate is almost certainly off, and by a considerable margin.


#6

I don’t understand the purpose of the question. Are you saying that if Cheezyguns54 says you’ve got no genetic potential, you’ll stop training? I’m not sure how, even if you get the right answer, it’s going to significantly affect your life? I say train hard for a few years and you’ll start to find out how good you can be.


#7

if you google weightrainer calculator, you give it your measurements and it compares the to professionals… mostly based on wrist/ankle circumference, I believe, in order to gauge your potential to hold mass… that’s for bbing, now plifting, and I can’t attest to its accuracy.


#8

The 19% is from my bi annual pfa evaluation for my job( u.s.n ) and the weight and height are 100% accurate. Im going to upload a pic here soon as i get a chance


#9

Your right, either way ill try my best, and see where is goes


#10

[quote]dagill2 wrote:
I don’t understand the purpose of the question. Are you saying that if Cheezyguns54 says you’ve got no genetic potential, you’ll stop training? I’m not sure how, even if you get the right answer, it’s going to significantly affect your life? I say train hard for a few years and you’ll start to find out how good you can be.[/quote]

Agreed. Also there will be a few stops along the way when you can figure out how far you want to take bodybuilding. Competing locally compared to nationally or just looking awesome on the beach. You may not be the next Arnold but there is a lot said for achieving the most possible for yourself without comparing yourself to elite body builders.


#11

Well right now im not very toned , i started training with a friend who is a power lifter, and im just not a fan of their physique most of the time , so right now im more thick bodied than toned, no big ol" gut though , so i guess ill just see where i am in a few months. ( always was active though, wrestled, and some football through the years) , i guess im trying to reallu ask, what would i be better suited for , actual bodybuilding , or powerlifting ,i just want to compete in something and not let some natural size go to waste


#12

[quote]jake51571 wrote:
Well right now im not very toned , i started training with a friend who is a power lifter, and im just not a fan of their physique most of the time , so right now im more thick bodied than toned, no big ol" gut though , so i guess ill just see where i am in a few months. ( always was active though, wrestled, and some football through the years) , i guess im trying to reallu ask, what would i be better suited for , actual bodybuilding , or powerlifting ,i just want to compete in something and not let some natural size go to waste[/quote]

Have you seen strong and lean powerlifters before? Guys like Jesse Norris and Dan Green could pass off as body builders. Powerlifters are usually leaner at high levels of competition, similar to most sports. Even in Olympic lifting in every weight class other than unlimited, lifters have low BF because more muscle means more strength potential.


#13

[quote]jake51571 wrote:
Well right now im not very toned , i started training with a friend who is a power lifter, and im just not a fan of their physique most of the time , so right now im more thick bodied than toned, no big ol" gut though , so i guess ill just see where i am in a few months. ( always was active though, wrestled, and some football through the years) , i guess im trying to reallu ask, what would i be better suited for , actual bodybuilding , or powerlifting ,i just want to compete in something and not let some natural size go to waste[/quote]

Have you seen strong and lean powerlifters before? Guys like Jesse Norris and Dan Green could pass off as body builders. Powerlifters are usually leaner at high levels of competition, similar to most sports. Even in Olympic lifting in every weight class other than unlimited, lifters have low BF because more muscle means more strength potential.


#14

[quote]jake51571 wrote:
Well right now im not very toned , i started training with a friend who is a power lifter, and im just not a fan of their physique most of the time , so right now im more thick bodied than toned, no big ol" gut though , so i guess ill just see where i am in a few months. ( always was active though, wrestled, and some football through the years) , i guess im trying to reallu ask, what would i be better suited for , actual bodybuilding , or powerlifting ,i just want to compete in something and not let some natural size go to waste[/quote]

No one can tell you that. Do what you enjoy and attack it with all your heart.

Stop looking at outside answers on what you would enjoy.


#15

[quote]JFG wrote:

[quote]jake51571 wrote:
Well right now im not very toned , i started training with a friend who is a power lifter, and im just not a fan of their physique most of the time , so right now im more thick bodied than toned, no big ol" gut though , so i guess ill just see where i am in a few months. ( always was active though, wrestled, and some football through the years) , i guess im trying to reallu ask, what would i be better suited for , actual bodybuilding , or powerlifting ,i just want to compete in something and not let some natural size go to waste[/quote]

No one can tell you that. Do what you enjoy and attack it with all your heart.

Stop looking at outside answers on what you would enjoy.
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Agreed. And if you stop lifting because you think that you don’t have the potential, your heart was never in it in the first place. Likewise, if your heart is not in it, you won’t go far even if you have the potential, unless you’re Flex Wheeler.


#16

If you need help figuring it out, continue doing a balanced program for strength and size and dropping the fat over time. Once you reach a low BF% you can ask experienced body builders what you would need to work on. If you find yourself getting strong quick, you may be more motivated to go the powerlifting route. People have done both so that’s possible too. It seems like you just need more time to decide.


#17

No i havent heard those names , ill look into them though, thanks for the reply


#18

Yeah , i like your reccomendation, ill just see how things turn out in a few months, i apreciate your response


#19

[quote]jake51571 wrote:
ill just see how things turn out in a few months,[/quote]

Try years, not months.


#20

[quote]dagill2 wrote:

[quote]jake51571 wrote:
ill just see how things turn out in a few months,[/quote]

Try years, not months.[/quote]

lol