[quote]ZEB wrote:
saquatch:
I think you need a bit of a break from the forum. You seem to be taking this a bit seriously. Keep in mind that it is you who initiated the original “discussion” between us. I did not "go after you? or anyone else on this thread. I simply gave the poster a few lines of good advice, which you took issue with. And keep in mind that it was you who made it personal with your cheap shots, not me.
It seems clear that you have a personal axe to grind relative to my many posts. Don’t like my political, religious or financial posts? Well, I was warned that whenever you take a political or religious stand that about half the people will love you for it and the other half hate you. Either way, why hijack a thread in order to seek some sort of vengeance? That seems rather childish. You could PM me to accomplish the same end. Do you think that grandstanding is appropriate? Can you honestly claim that you feel better now? Did you help the original poster by going off on a tangent and attacking me personally? No, then again it?s not the poster whom you care about; it?s lashing out at me which has apparently become important to you. It seems that you are the one who is “self-aggrandizing.”
To regress: Your original response to Bootsie was in fact questioning the question. It was also rude and abrupt. Is it okay for you to be rude and abrupt? Is this ?pretentious? of you?
sasquatch
03/21/05
10:28 PM
Wisconsin, USA
“Take advantage of the damn class and analyze your diet. Why do you want a sample diet from this type of breakdown?”
Since you called me out for doing almost the same thing (only far more politely) that makes you a hypocrite! None of my “friends” would have alerted me to this particular post, and I would not have posted it had you not tried to bully others regarding how they answered the original poster (there was another poster involved). Keep remembering that you are the one who initiated this “discussion” between the two of us, not me.
As to your rant regarding my alleged “superiority” over other members, I think you have mistaken my desire to help as one of superiority, and you should think again. I have no idea how old you are, but I come from a time when there was little help available. The only magazines were Joe Weiders and Bob Hoffmans. Hence, I appreciate this site and the amount of information that it offers. And they do it for FREE! Do you think we owe them anything for this?
In order to try to pay something back, aside from buying Biotest products and recommending them to all around, I try to help newbies (and others) whenever I feel that I can. If I have achieved some level of success in life (in whatever endeavor) should I not share with someone who is half my age? Would you not do the same? Along the way I have picked up many friends. I have helped people in PM (not always on a thread) with their training, and other matters. I often invite people to PM me if I think I can help. Again, it?s not about showing ?superiority?, it?s about helping those who really have no idea what they are doing and are reaching out.
In turn, as I have intimated, I have learned a great deal from some outstanding Coaches and other members, on this forum. I find myself constantly in awe of the amount of knowledge that is currently available on T-Nation (and the Internet). Maybe it?s a generational difference, I don?t know, but I can assure you that I will continue to give the best advice that I know how and also learn as much as possible.
Sorry that we had to have this sort of exchange as I am sure it was disruptive to the original poster and to those seeking advice on the topic.
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ZEB
You really need to go back over this thread. Read my comments, and then read your responses. You have chosen to attack me based on one previous, unrelated post. You dodge each query about your lack of info on original post. You spin a good tale, you meander around and then come back to something else. Never once addressing my original question or responding directly to the content of the post. Effective politicing, not effective debating.
This all started because I didn’t like the blow-off answer you gave the original poster. You’ve blown it up to be so much more. All you had to do was justify your answer with some logic so as to add to the base of knowlege for this potential creatine user. It is not about right or wrong, many situations are going to be responded to differently depending on your personal history. I never suggested you were right or wrong, just non-responsive in this particular case.